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Forum boards
by Christopher L Middleman 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

MJ Ray <mjr(a)phonecoop.coop> wrote: > I pointed to the current web forum, but I got an MAILER-DAEMON error > message back from the stcames.com mailserver saying that some server I > don't know (not one of my usuals) is banned for abuse. Unsure why this happened but if our ISP bans you there is usually a good reason. No saying you but maybe somebody else has abused your telco. Google search for abuse and maybe you can find out the reason why. >I'm not against the web forum interface. I'm against splitting the >koha user community into very small pieces. I would like to point out that you are not fracturing the community. What you are doing is focusing knowledge. My questions about a Ubuntu install are going to different then someone else's on Windows. Breaking them up allows people to find information faster. I may also have questions on data conversion. Maybe I am usnure how to start asking questions. By hitting the section on data conversion I can lots of different questions. I may even run across someone who has asked a question on it that answers everything I need to know to pull it off or it wil help me to focus my question to get the best out of the group. People are free to graze whatever channel they like. As I mentioned in my long post the bike forum I belong to I read a minimum of 3 sections a day. I do not feel like I am not a part of any of the groups when I start posting in a new part. A good community like they are always makes me feel welcome. > The current web forum groups all the responses into one place (and > threads them) and allows easy searching. My current experience with this is that it is a mess. I have a hard time finding the information I need. It takes to long to get a proper response. The history of a thread is right in front of me and I can see how an idea is developed. The current format does not and I often waste lots of time trying to run through and entire thread not knowing where at in the thread may be my answer. > Is there any evidence that "forum boards are strong for the general > person"? The three forums I visit are very strong. Posts every day and they tend to be quick for answers. Look at majorgeeks.com with their forums. I usually get a quick response there that works. A community is only as strong as the people want to make it. The nice thing about forums is that people can start to feel like they are actual neighbors and because of this more work gets done. > Some of us have been weighing in, but it seems like we're being > ignored. Over 90% of forums are ghost towns, often because they've > been forked over too much. Please don't make the same mistake for koha. Well I will let you know that if the support set up for koha does not change into something more coherent it will continued to be ignored at large. This group needs to change something to make it work better and for the knowledge that group has be accessed in a better way. Could you imagine a library organized this way?

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Modify koha alpha label
by Mohamed Fekry Negm 08 Mar '08

08 Mar '08

Hi all can i modify koha alpha label module to working on koha 2.2.8 . if yes can any body say how i do that?? thank's _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Join us at PLA - Koha Interest Group
by Nicole Engard 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

Sorry for that last email - I hit send instead of save!! PLA (http://www.placonference.org/) is coming upon us very quickly! I just wanted to let you all know that I'll be there probably at the booth most of the time - so stop by and see me. I also want to bring your attention to the Koha Interest Group meeting that we're holding. Time and Place Date: Thursday, March 27, 2008 Time: 3:30pm - 5:00pm Location: Hyatt Regency Minneapolis (Greenway Ballroom on the 2nd floor) Street: 1300 Nicollet Mall City/Town:Minneapolis, MN You can join the event on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=22845319016) or see more information on the LibLime (http://liblime.com/news-items/events/events/koha-interest-group-at-pla) site. I hope to see some of you there and meet some new people :) -- Nicole C. Engard Open Source Evangelist, LibLime (888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714 nce(a)liblime.com AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard http://liblime.com

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Join us at PLA - Koha Interest Group
by Nicole Engard 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

-- Nicole C. Engard Open Source Evangelist, LibLime (888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714 nce(a)liblime.com AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard http://liblime.com

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Follett to Koha 2.2.9 migration help
by Darren De Zeeuw 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

I am the volunteer IT guy for a small private school. We have been using Follett's Circ Plus/Cat Plus software for many years, but their upgrade path is too expensive and our old Mac OS 9 machine running the software in the library had a disk failure. It's time to find another solution. Koha seems to be the perfect fit for us, but I need to show that it's better than what we have in order to get approval. I've been reading what I can find in the list archive about migrating to Koha from Follett. Many topics are years old and probably specific to whatever the current Koha version was. Does anyone have experience with this migration recently? I've been able to install Koha 2.2.9 and all it's prerequisites on my MacBook Pro (Mac OS 10.5) as a test by combining multiple online help pages. I have a MICROLIF file with around 8000 records exported from our Follett catalog. I ran the bulkmarcimport.pl script and it brought most of the data over as far as I can see (I'm not a librarian), but seems to be missing our bar-coding information at least. I'm also unsure if I can migrate over our patron list as well. Any personal experience or relevant online hints would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Darren.

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koha installation version 3.0
by Surinder Kumar Gaba 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

I am installing koha3.0 alpha version on RHEL 5.0 using postgres 8.2.5. Once I am doing 'Make test', it is giving the following erro. I have created koha database. It seems to me that while installing koha is not updating all the tables in koha database. Any help in this regard is highly appreciable. PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl "-MExtUtils::Command::MM" "-e" "test_harness(0, 'blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR', 'blib/arch')" t/*.t t/Accounts..................DBD::Pg::db selectrow_array failed: ERROR: relation "systempreferences" does not exist Useless use of private variable in void context at /root/Desktop/koha/koha-3.00.00-alpha/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Output.pm line 160. DBD::Pg::db selectrow_array failed: ERROR: relation "systempreferences" does not exist t/Accounts..................ok t/Acquisition...............DBD::Pg::db selectrow_array failed: ERROR: relation "systempreferences" does not exist Useless use of private variable in void context at /root/Desktop/koha/koha-3.00.00-alpha/blib/PERL_MODULE_DIR/C4/Output.pm line 160. DBD::Pg::db selectrow_array failed: ERROR: relation "systempreferences" does not exist t/Acquisition...............ok 1/3DBD::Pg::db do failed: ERROR: relation "aqbasket" does not exist Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at t/Acquisition.t line 16. t/Acquisition...............NOK 2 # Failed test 'NewBasket( 1 , 1 ) returns ' regards -- Surinder Kumar Gaba

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HTML not being encoded for display?
by George Adams 07 Mar '08

07 Mar '08

(Koha 3.0 alpha, Gentoo Linux 2.6.24, MySQL 5.0.54) In tracking down some problems I was having, I've realized that it doesn't seem Koha doesn't do any HTML encoding with regards to MARC entry or biblio display. For example, in the "Add a MARC Record" section, I can enter in a title (tag 245c) of the following: My Book is <font size="+5">Great</font> Sure enough, when the completed MARC record is submitted, the additem.pl page will show the title with the word "Great" really big. Once added to the catalog, it will show up in the search engines with that word really big as well. Surely everything entered by users and librarian in the OPAC and Intranet sites should be HTML-encoded if it's going to be redisplayed, right? Did I miss some setting in the Administration menus that would disallow HTML from being entered in a form, or is this a fairly big bug? Thanks.

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Forum boards
by Christopher L Middleman 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

So I started a good discussion about starting a forum board and I have been reading the responses. I want those who are against the forum board idea to think of what is the purpose of a mailing list and how well does serve all members. The mailing list is great for developers. It allows them to exchange ideas about how the content they are working on will work. They have a good un derstanding of the beast they are creating so looking at the history of a question that has been asked. Forum boards are strong for the general person. If I have a question I have all the responses grouped into one place where I can see how something is refined. I can easily search the entire discussion for my answer or limit it to one section to get a really refined set of answers. They also have good post stuck to the top defining what this section is about and FAQ's. I read two forum boards regularely. The first one I read every day several times a day. It is http://www.bikeforums.net/ . Look at the structure of board. I ride a mountain bike and currently I am building a road bike. I am what is called Clydesdale. At a minimum 3 of the sections I delve into daily. I use the bicycle mechanics section to get answers on my build. I needed help attaching a carbon fiber chain stay protector and had my first response within 12 minutes. I had 12 within 12 hours. All nicely bundled under one topic idea and without being interspersed among other content questions. But I am also a clydesdale so I need to know things like what re good wheels for a clyde. The mechanics section is ok for that but in the clyde section I can search for an easy answer, and I found what rim and spoke count I can go with on this build, or if that does not yield clues I can post on a specialty wheel with a low spoke count and see if anyone else has had experience with them. The second forum I read is http://forums.majorgeeks.com/ for computer help. Notice again how it is broken up. How quickly questions are answered and how the answers are grouped together so you can see the refinement of ideas the sometimes lead to the strongest answer. So how do I envision a forum working for me on koha? Well I work at a school the has a Windows 2000/XP setup for the teachers and the students. The main server is an Ubuntu 6.06 file server and right now I am woring on getting koha 3.0 alpha running on debian etch. You can see that I would need right now to look at an install section of the forum for debian pertaining to getting the alpha done. I was going through the INSTALL.debian file and things went along pretty smooth but I have hit a bump in the road. Let say that 30% of the people installing this hit the same point as I do. Now if I have a forum board I have a sticky at the top that says something like Installing of debian /version/. I read along with that and do my install my problem may be solved because of refinements to the document by post. If the install section does not answer that I post my question and I may have a response to that question withing minutes instead of having to wait for the mailing list to go out, someone one read my question, and then me either receive the answer directly from them or from the next mailing list that gets sent out. But what if that does not solve my problems. How long would using the mailing list take to possibly solve it. I had one questions that took 6 months for someone to finally send me an answer. Someone borught up the idea of a wiki and I think for the installs that is a possible route to take but we need to find a place to put them all. We can no longer have them seperated out and possibly not being there. Yesterday I was looking for the ubuntu install one for an idea about modifying a file and it was either down or gone. We also need to end the practice of not showing every package that needs to be installed. It should not no longer say in the how to if you get errors then install those packages. I should be able to run through the instuctions just like I do for stuff posted on howtoforge.com. No matter what the mailing list will be needed but the forum board will bring a broader sense of community to the koha project. Forum boards are lively neighborhoods. They add to body of knowledge in a group. I would like to see this discussion continue and maybe some of the development team weigh in on what they think.

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Re: [Koha] Forum boards
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

this was my orig post which stated a system with duality in theory what is best is a forum that also mails all posts to subscribers if they wish . then if they want to post they can go to forum to post .....but they get all posts without have to check forum several times a day which,,,, is a pain in the ass. my opinion... but I am usually right. ed sharpe archivist for smecc **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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Re: [Koha] Forum boards
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 06 Mar '08

06 Mar '08

in theory what is best is a forum that also mails all posts to subscribers if they wish . then if they want to post they can go to forum to post .....but they get all posts without have to check forum several times a day which,,,, is a pain in the ass. my opinion... but I am usually right. ed sharpe archivist for smecc In a message dated 3/6/2008 9:23:17 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cmiddleman(a)stcames.com writes: So I started a good discussion about starting a forum board and I have been reading the responses. I want those who are against the forum board idea to think of what is the purpose of a mailing list and how well does serve all members. The mailing list is great for developers. It allows them to exchange ideas about how the content they are working on will work. They have a good un derstanding of the beast they are creating so looking at the history of a question that has been asked. Forum boards are strong for the general person. If I have a question I have all the responses grouped into one place where I can see how something is refined. I can easily search the entire discussion for my answer or limit it to one section to get a really refined set of answers. They also have good post stuck to the top defining what this section is about and FAQ's. I read two forum boards regularely. The first one I read every day several times a day. It is http://www.bikeforums.net/ . Look at the structure of board. I ride a mountain bike and currently I am building a road bike. I am what is called Clydesdale. At a minimum 3 of the sections I delve into daily. I use the bicycle mechanics section to get answers on my build. I needed help attaching a carbon fiber chain stay protector and had my first response within 12 minutes. I had 12 within 12 hours. All nicely bundled under one topic idea and without being interspersed among other content questions. But I am also a clydesdale so I need to know things like what re good wheels for a clyde. The mechanics section is ok for that but in the clyde section I can search for an easy answer, and I found what rim and spoke count I can go with on this build, or if that does not yield clues I can post on a specialty wheel with a low spoke count and see if anyone else has had experience with them. The second forum I read is http://forums.majorgeeks.com/ for computer help. Notice again how it is broken up. How quickly questions are answered and how the answers are grouped together so you can see the refinement of ideas the sometimes lead to the strongest answer. So how do I envision a forum working for me on koha? Well I work at a school the has a Windows 2000/XP setup for the teachers and the students. The main server is an Ubuntu 6.06 file server and right now I am woring on getting koha 3.0 alpha running on debian etch. You can see that I would need right now to look at an install section of the forum for debian pertaining to getting the alpha done. I was going through the INSTALL.debian file and things went along pretty smooth but I have hit a bump in the road. Let say that 30% of the people installing this hit the same point as I do. Now if I have a forum board I have a sticky at the top that says something like Installing of debian /version/. I read along with that and do my install my problem may be solved because of refinements to the document by post. If the install section does not answer that I post my question and I may have a response to that question withing minutes instead of having to wait for the mailing list to go out, someone one read my question, and then me either receive the answer directly from them or from the next mailing list that gets sent out. But what if that does not solve my problems. How long would using the mailing list take to possibly solve it. I had one questions that took 6 months for someone to finally send me an answer. Someone borught up the idea of a wiki and I think for the installs that is a possible route to take but we need to find a place to put them all. We can no longer have them seperated out and possibly not being there. Yesterday I was looking for the ubuntu install one for an idea about modifying a file and it was either down or gone. We also need to end the practice of not showing every package that needs to be installed. It should not no longer say in the how to if you get errors then install those packages. I should be able to run through the instuctions just like I do for stuff posted on howtoforge.com. No matter what the mailing list will be needed but the forum board will bring a broader sense of community to the koha project. Forum boards are lively neighborhoods. They add to body of knowledge in a group. I would like to see this discussion continue and maybe some of the development team weigh in on what they think. _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001)

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