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Re: [Koha] 1.2.1
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 22 Jun '02

22 Jun '02

Yes, a windows server solution is great as many libraries get free servers and software from bother BILL under the gates grant. I think this is great! Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > Subj:Re: [Koha] 1.2.1 > Date:6/21/2002 5:38:57 PM US Mountain Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:pate@eylerfamily.org">pate(a)eylerfamily.org</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:jeff.williams@hardsoft.com.au">jeff.williams(a)hardsoft.com.au</A> > CC:<A HREF="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz">koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz</A>, <A HREF="mailto:koha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > On Sat, 22 Jun 2002, Jeff Williams wrote: > > > Pat > > > > I am willing to look at producing a Windows Distribution that will > > install MySQL, Perl, Apache. > > > > This would work on win98/ME/2000/XP. > > > >

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koha under e-smith Mitel SME server
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 22 Jun '02

22 Jun '02

koha under e-smith Mitel SME server I will try to develop an install for this I may require some help from some of you from time to time that are more LINUX able! thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC

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Re: [Koha] 1.2.1
by Jeff Williams 22 Jun '02

22 Jun '02

Pat I am willing to look at producing a Windows Distribution that will install MySQL, Perl, Apache. This would work on win98/ME/2000/XP. I am also considering producing a windows client for Koha. Would there be interest here??? Could also have a windows forum area at http://schools.hardsoft.com.au/forums Regards Jeff Williams HardSoft Solutions Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Eyler" <pate(a)eylerfamily.org> To: "Pete Dubler" <pete(a)dublerfamily.com> Cc: <Koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>; <kohabiz(a)eylerfamily.org> Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 1:47 AM Subject: Re: [Koha] 1.2.1 On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, Pete Dubler wrote: > Pat, > > It would be awesome to have Koha come out as an rpm for redhat > installations. Yes, it would. And this is something we've talked about on the devel list. Our position boils down to this: We want Koha to run on as many distributions of linux (and other OSes) as possible. To that end, we don't want to produce an official release for one distribution for fear that we'll scare away users of other distributions. We would very much like people to produce pakages (.rpm, .deb., .pkg, .lpp, or whatever) which we could put up in a contrib area. We would also like to see turnkey koha systems (either a CD that can be installed on a blank system or a full blown koha server). I think that these last two bits are excellent roles for koha support company to fill. It could give you a nice product and some good postioning. -pate > > Pete > > >

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1.2.0 Problems
by Shane Williams 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

I've been watching Koha's progress for a couple of years now. I tried 1.04, had some install troubles (with CDK in particular) and put it on the backburner. In any case, I decided 1.20 was a good point to reassess things. Things are looking much better (thank you so much for the web interface, now I don't have to monkey with CDK). That said, I've had a number of problems with 1.20 as well. Looking at the recent list archive I can see that others are having trouble with 1.2.0 as well. I just wanted to lay out a few of the problems I've had (some may be repititions of other's posts). 1) Several links to koha.some.where/cgi-bin/koha/etc. that failed based on the example <VirtualHost> entries. My solution was to change my ScriptAlias entry in httpd.conf to: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/koha/ /home/httpd/koha/cgi-bin/ instead of: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/httpd/koha/cgi-bin/ 2) On the members/index.html there's a link to members/results-add.html, but no such file exists. 3) The other problem, which Pete mentioned in his "koha install problems on RH 7.2 MORE DATA" is that all but one of the scripts in koha/cgi-bin/admin/ have compilation problems. For instance, running perl -cw branches.pl leads to: Scalar value @biblioitems[$x] better written as $biblioitems[$x] at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/C4/Reserves2.pm line 189, <KC> line 6. "my" variable $sth masks earlier declaration in same scope at branches.pl line 192, <KC> line 6. Too many arguments for C4::Output::mklink at branches.pl line 262, near "'')" branches.pl had compilation errors. 4) A few other notes. In the INSTALL file, there are a few confusing spots. One is that database name in all the mysql commands is Koha, but in the sample koha.conf file it's koha. Also, at least with perl 5.005 the -I option must come before the script name, so the command: perl scripts/updater/updatedatabase -I /pathtoC4 should probably read (and why not point to the pathtoC4 dir): perl -I modules/ scripts/updater/updatedatabase All in all though, things are looking good. Once the admin scripts get fixed up, I'll start showing it off to the folks here at the Library and Information Science School. Thanks for all the hard work. -- Public key #7BBC68D9 at | Shane Williams http://pgp.mit.edu/ | Systems Administrator UT-GSLIS =----------------------------------+------------------------------- All syllogisms contain three lines | broot(a)gslis.utexas.edu Therefore this is not a syllogism | www.gslis.utexas.edu/~shanew

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Re: [Koha] running server over dsl adsl etc etc
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

Thanks for the info and the clarification of speeds! 1/2 day downtime could be a problem, but suppose could even have that with a t1 line. Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > Subj: Re: [Koha] running server over dsl adsl etc etc > Date: 6/21/2002 1:15:31 AM US Mountain Standard Time > From: paul.poulain(a)free.fr (paul POULAIN) > Sender: koha-admin(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > To: COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com > CC: koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > > > > > <A HREF="mailto:COURYHOUSE@aol.com">COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com</A> wrote: > > >> 16 kb limit? Ouch.... At the moment our standard is 256 up and 600 >> something down. Of course the person on the other end would be seeing the >> 256.. > In france, > it's 16 kBytes, so 128kbits. (in french we have 2 very differents word : > bit and > octet, so we can't make a mistake like i did in english ;-) ) > > >> for a little money I can upgrade to 1 gig both ways.. We are that close >> to the central office, I actually could throw a rock and hit the wall of >> it down the street from where the museum is here! >> >> Yes, I can lease a block of static IP address ... that they will charge me >> $10 a month for... >> >> How reliable is dsl though for running servers over!? > Anyway, i think the reliability is the > reliability of your ISP. The dsl technology is better than cable one, as > the > bandwidth is not shared between users like with cable. > If you ISP can guarantee a minimum bandwith, then you can do it. > If not (like here in france. The best ISP guarantee 1kB ;-) minimum), then > you must choose wether to take the risk or not ;-) > > My ISP (nerim, small only-DSL ISP), does not guarantee anything, but > everybody is satisfied with it. In 6 months of DSL, i've only have had half > a day with problems. > -- > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list >

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Re: [Koha] 1.2.0 Problems
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

I think there needs to be tighter Quality control on the releases. Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > Subj:Re: [Koha] 1.2.0 Problems > Date:6/20/2002 4:34:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:pate@eylerfamily.org">pate(a)eylerfamily.org</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:broot@gslis.utexas.edu">broot(a)gslis.utexas.edu</A> > CC:<A HREF="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz">koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz</A>, <A HREF="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.sourceforge.net">Koha-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Shane Williams wrote: > > > I've been watching Koha's progress for a couple of years now. I tried > > 1.04, had some install troubles (with CDK in particular) and put it on > > the backburner. > > Thanks for sticking with Koha. > > > > > In any case, I decided 1.20 was a good point to reassess things. > > Things are looking much better (thank you so much for the web > > interface, now I don't have to monkey with CDK). That said, I've had > > a number of problems with 1.20 as well. Looking at the recent list > > archive I can see that others are having trouble with 1.2.0 as well. > > > > Yep, there are some issues with 1.2.0, a 1.2.1 release to fix the things > we've seen should be out shortly. > > > I just wanted to lay out a few of the problems I've had (some may be > > repititions of other's posts). > > > > 1) Several links to koha.some.where/cgi-bin/koha/etc. that failed > > based on the example <VirtualHost> entries. My solution was to change > > my ScriptAlias entry in httpd.conf to: > > > > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/koha/ /home/httpd/koha/cgi-bin/ > > instead of: > > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /home/httpd/koha/cgi-bin/ > > > > > > 2) On the members/index.html there's a link to members/results-add.html, > > but no such file exists. > > > > > > 3) The other problem, which Pete mentioned in his "koha install problems > > on RH 7.2 MORE DATA" is that all but one of the scripts in > > koha/cgi-bin/admin/ have compilation problems. For instance, running > > perl -cw branches.pl leads to: > > > > Scalar value @biblioitems[$x] better written as $biblioitems[$x] at > > /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i386-linux/C4/Reserves2.pm line 189, > > <KC> line 6. > > "my" variable $sth masks earlier declaration in same scope at > > branches.pl line 192, <KC> line 6. > > Too many arguments for C4::Output::mklink at branches.pl line 262, > > near "'')" > > branches.pl had compilation errors. > > > > > > 4) A few other notes. In the INSTALL file, there are a few confusing > > spots. One is that database name in all the mysql commands is Koha, > > but in the sample koha.conf file it's koha. Also, at least with perl > > 5.005 the -I option must come before the script name, so the command: > > > > perl scripts/updater/updatedatabase -I /pathtoC4 > > should probably read (and why not point to the pathtoC4 dir): > > > > perl -I modules/ scripts/updater/updatedatabase > > > > > > All in all though, things are looking good. Once the admin scripts > > get fixed up, I'll start showing it off to the folks here at the > > Library and Information Science School. Thanks for all the hard work. > > > > Great! Please let us know how things go. And what we can do to help make > the presentation go more smoothly. > > -pate > > >

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Re: [Koha] running server over dsl adsl etc etc
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

OK here is what we have Commercial account since we have business lines to the museum. 256 uplink and I think 512 down link which means the person coming into the catalog gets 256.... This we may want to up. already have them as a provider for Internet services (If it works I tend to stay with once source for everything, thus you have only one phone number to holler at when the thing breaks!) still have to lease static ip's unless we wanted to go with the dynamic ip server (which we don't) Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > Subj: [Koha] running server over dsl adsl etc etc > Date: 6/21/2002 6:05:49 AM US Mountain Standard Time > From: am12(a)bolis.com (Alan Millar) > To: koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz, COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com > > > > > > What experiences have users out there had running their server over > dsl/ads= > > l=20 > > qwest says I can do this on the commercial offering of a dsl account > and=20 > > lease IP addresses... are there any glitches? Pitfalls? etc etc... > > > > Would like to hear what others may have experienced=E2=80=A6 > > I'm running Koha for my home library with a DSL line. It is simply another > web application; there is no difference between Koha and any other use > of a DSL line for web serving. > > QWest is giving you standard sales pitch. You DON'T need a commercial > account or 20 IP addresses for Koha or web serving as such. You determine > those > things by what else you want to do with the DSL line. It may (or may not) > be > that the best package happens to include those also, but they aren't needed > for Koha. > > Presumably we're discussing DSL at all because you want to offer your > card catalog over the internet to others. The main DSL issue for > web serving and therefore Koha will be *outbound* bandwidth. DSL, > which usually means ADSL, is not symmetrical. You usually get much more > bandwidth incoming than outgoing. This is great for your web surfing but > not for serving. Make sure any DSL line specs include both directions. > For example, if they tell you it is a 256kbps line speed, that's probably > incoming, and the outgoing will likely be much smaller. Watch for > that. > > DSL service is really made up of two halves to the equation: (1) the DSL > line itself, which is just carrying dumb packets, and (2) Internet > service over that line. In the US, you do *not* have to get your > Internet service from the phone company that provides the DSL line > itself. Qwest wants you to get both from them, and may even tell you > that's the only choice. Don't believe them, and shop around for > an alternate reputable ISP before just believing Qwest's sales > pitch. > > Good luck! > > - Alan > > ---- > Alan Millar --==> am12(a)bolis.com <==-- >

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From the Kaitiaki
by Pat Eyler 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

21 June, 2002 To the Koha community; Howdy, We've been busy this last week, both within the project and in the wider scope of library software in general. 1.2.1 is out (see below), more people are getting involved in the MARC work for 1.4, people are popping up with offers to translate Koha, discussions are now underway with a number of other Free Software developers about pooling resources, and a couple of more libraries are starting to move towards Koha as a production system. Koha is looking very healthy. 1.2 1.2.1 is undergoing a final review before its release, and contains fixes to all the known bugs that crept into 1.2.0. We're looking forward to a 1.2.2 release soon. Chris is hinting that it will include branch transfers and extended options for OPAC. 1.4 Paul has published some information about his 1.4 plans[1], included in his To Do list is a call for volunteers, please take him up on it. The biggest thing that Paul wants to get done is to test the MARC API. For this to work, the old module code needs to be rewritten to use the new API. If you're looking for a place to put your hard earned Perl skills to good use, this would be it. Note that only the modules (representing the API) will be changing. It is our intent that scripts will still call the old functions, using the same parameters. The big win here is that for most programmers, there will be no extra work to use the new code within existing code. A new MARC acquistion system should be written to fully exploit the new capabilities Translations Wow! Thanks to volunteers in the community, we've got people working on (or getting ready to): Spanish French Portuguese Bengali Hindi We're also trying to come up with some standards and tools to help make this whole process easier. The program itself isn't quite ready for easy translation (the templates mentioned above will turn the trick here), but there are a number of things that could be translated. If you're interested, we'd love to have the INSTALL document, the Manual, and these notes[2] translated into as many languages as possible. Documentation Nick has done a wonderful job in putting this together, and now Rosalie Blake and some of her staff at HLT are hard at work on a users manual to expand what's available. If you've been using Koha and have thoughts about what needs to go into the documentation, or are willing to volunteer to help write, proofread, mark up, etc. -- please, contact Nick on the koha-devel mailing list[3]. IRC Meeting In all of the work and excitement surrounding the 1.2.0 release, we managed to miss our regularly scheduled IRC meeting. I apologize to any who planned on attending. Let's try again on June 27th at 2200 GMT. A preliminary agenda includes: 1.2 schedule 1.4 plans thoughts on templating translations community (Koha, and the larger OSS4lib, and the larger library community) cross referencing Community Nick has put together a great Request For Comments and sent it out to many of the project leaders working on Open Source projects related to libraries. So far the results are encouraging. At the same time, I've put together a mailing list to discuss providing commercial support for Koha[4]. Katipo[5] is already doing a wonderful job of this, and has been very supportive of others stepping up to start doing so as well. I believe very strongly that a deep pool of commercial support providers around the world will help to strengthen the Koha community, and provide greater incentive for libraries to consider using Koha. Even with as much as we've done, I'm excited to see what the future holds. It certainly looks rosy to me. Ya'll come back now, -pate Pat Eyler Kaitiaki of the Koha Project [1] Please see <http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/wiki/index.php?page=ToDoMARC>. [2] If you're interested in translating these notes, please contact me and I'll get you a draft copy early, then send you the final the day before I send it out generally. I ask that you do two things in return, post the translation to any suitable mailing list or web site in your native language, and please send me a copy for archiving at my website <http://pate.eylerfamily.org>. [3] subscribe at <http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=16466> [4] You can subscribe by sending an email to <kohabiz-subscribe(a)eylerfamily.org> and following the directions you receive. [5] <www.katipo.co.nz>

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running server over dsl adsl etc etc
by Alan Millar 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

> What experiences have users out there had running their server over dsl/ads= > l=20 > qwest says I can do this on the commercial offering of a dsl account and=20 > lease IP addresses... are there any glitches? Pitfalls? etc etc... > > Would like to hear what others may have experienced=E2=80=A6 I'm running Koha for my home library with a DSL line. It is simply another web application; there is no difference between Koha and any other use of a DSL line for web serving. QWest is giving you standard sales pitch. You DON'T need a commercial account or 20 IP addresses for Koha or web serving as such. You determine those things by what else you want to do with the DSL line. It may (or may not) be that the best package happens to include those also, but they aren't needed for Koha. Presumably we're discussing DSL at all because you want to offer your card catalog over the internet to others. The main DSL issue for web serving and therefore Koha will be *outbound* bandwidth. DSL, which usually means ADSL, is not symmetrical. You usually get much more bandwidth incoming than outgoing. This is great for your web surfing but not for serving. Make sure any DSL line specs include both directions. For example, if they tell you it is a 256kbps line speed, that's probably incoming, and the outgoing will likely be much smaller. Watch for that. DSL service is really made up of two halves to the equation: (1) the DSL line itself, which is just carrying dumb packets, and (2) Internet service over that line. In the US, you do *not* have to get your Internet service from the phone company that provides the DSL line itself. Qwest wants you to get both from them, and may even tell you that's the only choice. Don't believe them, and shop around for an alternate reputable ISP before just believing Qwest's sales pitch. Good luck! - Alan ---- Alan Millar --==> am12(a)bolis.com <==--

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Re: [Koha] running server over dsl adsl etc etc
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 21 Jun '02

21 Jun '02

16 kb limit? Ouch.... At the moment our standard is 256 up and 600 something down. Of course the person on the other end would be seeing the 256.. for a little money I can upgrade to 1 gig both ways.. We are that close to the central office, I actually could throw a rock and hit the wall of it down the street from where the museum is here! Yes, I can lease a block of static IP address ... that they will charge me $10 a month for... How reliable is dsl though for running servers over!? thanks again! Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC > Subj:Re: [Koha] running server over dsl adsl etc etc > Date:6/20/2002 2:05:46 AM US Mountain Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:paul.poulain@free.fr">paul.poulain(a)free.fr</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:COURYHOUSE@aol.com">COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com</A>, <A HREF="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz">koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > > >What experiences have users out there had running their server over > dsl/adsl > > qwest says I can do this on the commercial offering of a dsl account and > > >lease IP addresses... are there any glitches? Pitfalls? etc etc... > > > >Would like to hear what others may have experienced… > > > > > The main problem is you upload limit, as you upload limit will be > customer download limit :-((( > Here, in france, the "standard" DSL (the cheapest) has 16kb upload > limit, which is not enough for a commercial product. The next one is > 64kb, which begins to be a good bandwidth > > Last note, you need a static ip, of course. > -- > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list > Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha

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