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Re: [Koha] ANNOUNCE: Koha perl dependency RPMs for Red Hat 9
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

Indeed! I have been at sites where the S word and F word were chanted in an hour long mantra...of course followed by the sound of an install CD whanging off the wall ... and yes, the poor soul trying to instal their new application has a real dim view of the folk that created it! Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC (official wheedler of the project cattle prod) > Subj:Re: [Koha] ANNOUNCE: Koha perl dependency RPMs for Red Hat 9 > Date:6/22/2003 1:25:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:peterha@nothingbutnet.co.nz">peterha(a)nothingbutnet.co.nz</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz">koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > On Monday 23 June 2003 01:22 am, COURYHOUSE(a)aol.com wrote: > > "it would really help a lot of not-so-IT librarians to just install Koha > > without them knowing the hard work." > > > > Correct.. In this manner and other things leading to the one click > instal, > > shall any software package gain universal acceptance... > > A manager once put me right on this point. Your application might be the > best > in the world, but if the install isn't easy, or doesn't work right, the user > > will never see how good it is. > > This is a problem with open source in general - that installation is far > harder than with commercial applications. Developers know how to build and > deploy, while users are not conversant with the tools - and shouldn't need > to > be. > > Regards, > Peter > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list > Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz Thanks Ed Sharpe, Archivist for SMECC See the Museum's Web Site at www.smecc.org We are always looking for items to add to the museum's display and ref. library please advise if you have anything we can use. mail: Coury House / SMECC 5802 W. Palmaire Ave. Glendale Az 85301 USA 623-435-1522 CONFIDENZIALE: Questo messaggio e gli eventuali allegati sono confidenziali e riservati. Se vi è stato recapitato per errore e non siete fra i destinatari elencati, siete pregati di darne immediatamente avviso al mittente. Le informazioni contenute non devono essere mostrate ad altri, né utilizzate, memorizzate o copiate in qualsiasi forma. CONFIDENTIAL: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may contain reserved information. If you are not one of the named recipients, please notify the sender immediately. Moreover, you should not disclose the contents to any other persons, nor should the information contained be used for any purpose or stored or copied in any form.

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RE: [Koha] RE: perl modules
by Jones, Steven 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

The cpan issue is our proxy/firewall not related to cpan. My only option is to locate and download the modules by hand. Database.pm is indeed there, however the auto install script is failing as it cant find it, PATH issue? The yaz kit I got was for RH7.2 so I will try this new stuff and see if it solves issues. thanks for the reply regards Steven -----Original Message----- From: Erik Stainsby [mailto:erik.stainsby@modern-alchemy.net] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 3:58 AM To: Jones, Steven Cc: koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] RE: perl modules Steven, I have got koha installed and running on RH9, although I had some frustrations gettting it to go. The CPAN issue you are facing is likely related to the terminal being utf-8 capable. The new CPAN config process (first time start up) asks a question about the language encoding that your terminal is capable of. Answer this question wrong and CPAN will not work, translating characters outside the ASCII range incorrectly. (Many CPAN authors have Euro characters in their packages in the author's name.) The correct answer to the config question (paraphrased here from memory): "Is your terminal UTF-8 capable?" is to answer in the affirmative for RH9 (and it seems the script is case-sensitive here as well). Further, CPAN helpfully advises you to upgrade the Bundle::CPAN. DON'T DO IT! ExtUtils::Makemaker will corrupt, rendering the CPAN tool useless. CPAN 1.6.1 is fine. Also of note, the Yaz z39.50 toolkit has a different set of installer files for RH9. There are four rpm files required, plus an optional src file. Get at least the four non-src rpms from: http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/yaz/RedHat9.X/ These must be installed before the Net::Z39.50 package can be built. Database.pm is a Koha package, part of the install. It will be located in the <koha>/C4 directory. HTH, Erik -- Erik Stainsby Modern Alchemy http://www.modern-alchemy.net/ On June 18, 2003 03:11 am, Jones, Steven wrote: > template was missing, i got that installed, I have a PAN.pm I cant locate, > Database.pm I have in a Mysql cluster from CPAN but wont compile as another > perl module wont link to / register with perl. > > Net::Z3950 seems optional, it failed for some reason so I left it. > > Has anyone got koha going on rh9? > > Steven > _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha

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Re: [Koha] ANNOUNCE: Koha perl dependency RPMs for Red Hat 9
by Louella Santiago 22 Jun '03

22 Jun '03

> i might even manage an RPM package for Koha itself. <g> > > Paul hopefully, this would come to fruition. it would really help a lot of not-so-IT librarians to just install Koha without them knowing the hard work. cheers! louella

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Ding, ding... koha 1.9.3 just arrived at sourceforge airport. Welcome onboard
by paul POULAIN 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

This release add a lot of bugfixes, a 1st z3950 support, and a script for migration from previous ILS. FEATURE FREEZE ! --------- This version is the last version with new features before 2.0. Please, report bugs on bugs.koha.org, and feel free to fix them (through patch or cvs commit) PACKAGE NEEDED : --------- Update your MARC::Record to get the latest version (1.26). Koha won't work with old versions, and bulkmarcimport.pl need MARC::Batch.pm, whichi is recent. MARC::Record 1.25 works to, but reports hundred of warnings in error_log. pls upgrage to 1.26 ! DB modifications : --------- * the marc_breeding table has been modified. A row "encoding" varchar(40) has been added. It's used to manage character encoding. * the z3950_servers table has been modified. A row "syntax" varchar(40) has been added. It's used to manage character encoding. z3950 : --------- * the z3950 script in admin part of Koha has been fixed and can be used and translated. * z3950 cataloguing : when you reach the MARC-cataloguing screen, a new link appear : z3950 search. * If you click on this link, a popup appears, and the search begins. The window is refreshed every 2 seconds, until all servers answered. * The avaible records are shown in the popup. Click on the one you want, and... the popup closes and the biblio is copied in the cataloguing screen. This works ONLY IF the z3950 daemon is launched. It's located at $kohadir/scripts/z3950daemon/ * MODIFY the scripts to fit you directory structure. * Warning : due to a small bug, processqueue is in $kohadir/cgi-bin/z3950/ directory, not in the script one. * Start daemon in a non-X shell, or launch processqueue in a shell, and KEEP IT OPEN. iso2709 file import : --------- This tools is very important and was waiting by libraries that plans to migrate from a previous ILS. VERY IMPORTANT : BEFORE using this script, take care of your MARC parameters, and check them twice. If they are wrong, you will get wrong results... It's located (in CVS tree) at $koharoot/misc/bulkmarcimport.pl It loads an iso2709 file into the ACTIVE Database. My 1st tests on sample files shows it works quite fine. Feel free to try it. How it works ? enter ./bulkmarcimport in a console, and look. KNOWN LIMIT : If the barcode of an item does not exists, the scripts report an SQL error, and continue. BUT the corresponding item is not in the non-marc db, so it can't be requested or loaned. sample file : --------- The sample file has been removed from this release, as it's buggy (no MARC datas, making it quite useless) BUG FIXED (see bugs.koha.org for more infos) ========= A lot... (around 35). Thanks to Mike that fixed a lot, Steve that fixes some, MJ Ray that upgraded the installer for non-root install, and Chris that fixed some and begins backport of non-marc stuff from 1.2 Bugs still open in bugs.koha.org ======================= A lot... (around 60. some being really trivial to fix, some being more important) TODO ===== * some GUI reordering, as planned with Rachel from Katipo and others (paul & others) * finishing backport of non-marc cataloguing & non-marc simple acquisition from 1.2 version (chris) * bug fixes (everybody) * cleaning z3950 old searches (more than 1 hour/day old ?) (paul) -- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)

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RE: [Koha] RE: perl modules
by Jones, Steven 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

template was missing, i got that installed, I have a PAN.pm I cant locate, Database.pm I have in a Mysql cluster from CPAN but wont compile as another perl module wont link to / register with perl. Net::Z3950 seems optional, it failed for some reason so I left it. Has anyone got koha going on rh9? Steven -----Original Message----- From: Jerome Vizcaino [mailto:vizcainj@esiee.fr] Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 10:00 PM To: Jones, Steven Cc: koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: RE: [Koha] RE: perl modules Hmm I see. We had the same problem here trying to install Koha on a Debian Woody installation. I just wen't through the problem installing all the modules by hand. Here is the list of modules I installed to get Koha installation to the end : DateManip Event HTML::Template (this one should be included in a rpm package as it is very common. It is in Debian at least :) Mail::Sendmail MARC::Record Net::Z3950 Test Test::Harmness Test::Simple Also install yaz (which is not a perl module). As far as I remember, Koha needs it. Modules installation is quite simple and should not be any problem. Install all the Test modules first or the other install will complain about missing perl modules. Good Luck Jerome On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 11:50, Jones, Steven wrote: > nope not really.... > > I cant run automatically through our proxy server, and tracing modules is > proving impossible. > > The automated script in 1.2.3 is failing on Database.PL, Im beginning to > assume koha wont install on rh9 > > regards > > Steven > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerome Vizcaino [mailto:vizcainj@esiee.fr] > Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2003 8:41 PM > To: Jones, Steven > Cc: koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > Subject: Re: [Koha] RE: perl modules > > > Hi > > Mostly all the modules available for Perl are located at > http://www.cpan.org > > Once you get the CPAN module, you can install modules automatically > (almost) using the following command (which is printed at the end of the > Koha installation if you are missing some modules) > > perl -MCPAN -e 'install MODULE::EXAMPLE' > > Hope this helps. > > Jerome > > On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 03:58, Jones, Steven wrote: > > I seem to be unable to get koha installed due to numerous missing perl > > modules, > > > > Where can I find > > > > Database.pm and PAN.pm? > > > > How come when I run the 1.2.3 install script and it says all esential > > modules installed, i get a failed install? > > > > regards > > > > Steven > > _______________________________________________ > > Koha mailing list > > Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Koha mailing list > Koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha > >

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'help'
by Anne Zarinnia 20 Jun '03

20 Jun '03

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migrations
by Pat Eyler 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

I'd really like to talk to libraries who have migrated from Follet or from Alexandria onto Koha ... There's a group of libraries who are looking at trying out Koha, but they need to know a bit more about the data migration process. -pate Pat Eyler Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org

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Re: [Koha-devel]+[Koha] The Rather Anxious Feature Requestor and various OT s...
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

please re read the last 2 days of email you will notice I stated in onne of them "See you in 6 months" > To the original feature requestor: Maybe you should go to your board of > directors and seek guidance - wait 6 months (don't quote me on that

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Re: [Koha-devel] Re: [Koha] 3rd pre 2.0 meeting
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

shouldn't have to be a new feature, it should be there by default. as with any library automation system that is in widespread use. Remember strive to be the standard, not just sorta meet it. > I remind : > 2.0.x => improvments > 2.2 => new features > LC not being a new feature imho. >

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Re: [Koha-devel] Re: [Koha] 3rd pre 2.0 meeting (fwd)
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 19 Jun '03

19 Jun '03

Yes, but we know serials support is coming. But at a later time. > Note, Ed, that there are some other missing features in Koha that are a > problem. For example, Serial support. > We don't say that Koha is ready for any library. Maybe you've putted too > many hopes in our project... >

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