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Ah, now what . . .
by Mark Bondurant 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

It's up, but I'm not sure what I'm looking at. I only see two index pages, one is the initial menu and one is the search screen. There are a lot of perl scripts, but what calls them? I want to be able to enable that new members screen that's commented out on the main menu and I want to be able to catalog new books. I also hear mention that you were able to directly upload marc21 records. This would be cool as it would save us a lot of work. I want to be able to edit the catagories too, without having to directly access the database. So which perl script do I start with. Also, do you ever sleep or leave your keyboard. These replies seem to come at all hours.

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Oh yes . . .
by Mark Bondurant 22 Mar '02

22 Mar '02

I redesigned the initial menu: http://216.202.174.223:5924/index.html I drew the Owl myself with GIMP.

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Installation Questions
by Roger Buck 21 Mar '02

21 Mar '02

I am currently trying a first-time install of Koha (from latest CVS) on RedHat 6.2 As I proceed, I am trying to clarify and document problems that I encounter so although the stuff below is written in the style of statements, it is in fact questionable <grin> The starting point for this is the koha INSTALL document. I intend to expand on that and so, for that purpose, I have created a Koha installation wiki at: http://www.saas.nsw.edu.au/wiki/ It is also available for anyone to add/edit/modify via public Internet. The wiki content may eventually be a suitable update for the koha INSTALL file. The document is available now, but in order for me to proceed, can anyone please help clarify /correct the following: Koha is designed to be installed as two separate services - each having a unique web address and folder structure (two virtual web hosts). The folder structures for both servers are designed to operate separately and independently; The only reason for this is to simplify security setup? The "/cgi-bin/opac/*" scripts (placed in the opac cgi-bin folder) are a sub-set of the "/cgi-bin/koha/" scripts. To clarify this further: * The "/cgi-bin/opac/" cgi-bin folder contains _only_ those scripts in the root directory of the "scripts/" directory (found in the koha distribution). * The "koha" cgi-bin folder contains all files and folders found inside the distribution "scripts/" folder _except_ the "telnet" folder and non web stuff (see below). This means that the following sub folders and their contents... /scripts/acqui/*.pl /scripts/maint/*.pl /scripts/circ/*.pl /scripts/misc/*.pl /scripts/sec/*.pl ...should be copied to the root of /cgi-bin/koha/ (do not copy contents of telnet, tkperl, translator and updater directories to cgi-bin - see install manual for details). NOTE: Is there some way this could be implied? What about acqui.simple in CVS - does this mean either use /acqui/*.pl _or_ /acqui.simple/*.pl ? Both virtual hosts access a single database which may be on the same server or on a remote server. The two separate web servers are referred to as "koha" and "opac". The term "intranet" in the koha doc refers to the "koha" web site. NOTE: For consistency why not re-name the respective html distro folders koha-html and opac-html ? Catalogue maintenance and acquisitions links in /catalogue/index.html are broken (..."acquisitions/" link is relative instead of absolute... which (wrongly) requires that "acquisition" folder is a sub-folder of catalogue)? Also, I assume the "catmaintain.pl" should be located inside the "catalogue/" subdir - not the root of cgi-bin/koha/ ? Anyhow, I think the index.html links need to be tidied up ;^) I'm sure there is other stuff but I want to get feedback on above before going too far on a wild goose chase <grin> I'm happy to find, fix and diff anything obvious if that would help. In the meantime. I'll continue to provide more feedback/questions here. R.

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Re: [Koha] Installation Questions
by Roger Buck 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

Roger Buck wrote: [--snip--] > > > > Where are the "Exchange Rates" added/modified/set? > > > > > > > > Chris Cormack wrote: > > > Can you try doing a cvs update, there should be a new index.html in the > > > acquisitions dir that should be the latest. > > > > > > Can you let me know if that works ok? > > > > OK I had to make an additional change to apache.conf for this one - the > > new index.html includes an "exec" > > > > Ahh yep, it fetches the data from the database. OK - To be picky again... If I turn on +IncludesNoExec in apache.conf and then change from... exec='/cgi-bin/koha/currency.pl' to... include virtual="/cgi-bin/koha/currency.pl" Everything works same but avoids using exec. Q. Why avoid using the "exec"? A. Looking at: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_include.html#includevirtual I get: ======================================================= The use of #include virtual is almost always prefered to using either #exec cgi or #exec cmd. The former (#include virtual) used the standard Apache sub-request mechanism to include files or scripts. It is much better tested and maintained. In addition, on some platforms, like Win32, and on unix when using suexec, you cannot pass arguments to a command in an exec directive, or otherwise include spaces in the command. Thus, while the following will work under a non-suexec configuration on unix, it will not produce the desired result under Win32, or when running suexec:  ====================================================== [--snip--] > I think the problem is its trying to get the currency and budget data > from the database .. and there is no data in the db? > IN the currency table? > > Paul posted some sample data, if you whack some of that into your db. > That should get it looking more like what you expect OK - done... now works as expected. Thanks, R.

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Re: [Koha] gripe
by COURYHOUSE＠aol.com 20 Mar '02

20 Mar '02

I think what needs to be done, and have mentioned this before is an instal or set up script. I am awaiting these things to be done before I even attempt to implement this system. We also need to be sure that marc 21 is going in as well as out. keep up the good work folks! ed sharpe archivist for smecc > Subj:Re: [Koha] gripe > Date:3/17/2002 8:49:45 PM US Mountain Standard Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:chris@katipo.co.nz">chris(a)katipo.co.nz</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:lawgon@thenilgiris.com">lawgon(a)thenilgiris.com</A> > CC:<A HREF="mailto:koha@lists.katipo.co.nz">koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 15:34, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > hi all > > i have a major gripe: koha doesnt run out of the box. ok. it is open > source. > > but atleast you could add something in your INSTALL file to tell us that > > certain tables have to be manually filled in to start. i downloaded the > > archive for this list and spent two days distilling it. found that > certain > > hardworking people actually found out - on their own - that some things > had > > to be done manually to start up. agreed that you have done great work. do > you > > think that it will take that long to add a little thingie to the end of > your > > INSTALL file to tell us what we have to do manually to get the system up > and > > running. > > Fair call, this is something we do need to tidy up. > > > one more gripe: you ask us to download from sourceforge. and then say > 'ouch, > > those files are pretty old - try this link'. > > i personally think that you are doing opensource a disfavour. i'm from > india. > > downloading is slow and expensive. please put your latest stuff where the > > > search engines point > > The release on sourceforge is the latest release we have. > There is no newer release. What I was pointing you at was the cvs > archives, where you can check out the files that will be the 1.2.0 > release. But there is no newer tarball, apart from the nightly cvs > tarball that sourceforge makes automatically. Which isnt a release. > > Sorry If there was a misunderstanding. > > Chris > -- > Chris Cormack Programmer > 025 500 789 Katipo Communications Ltd > chris(a)katipo.co.nz www.katipo.co.nz >

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community catalog project
by jacobs 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Hi all, I'm a volunteer librarian (and LIS grad student) at the Urbana-Champaign Independent Media Center Library (http://ucimc.org/library) and am looking for an open source package that will help me with a project. I'd like to create a community online catalog. Currently, I have 2 organizations interested and the support of a faculty member at U. of Illinois Urbana Champaign who wants to give her cataloging students an opportunity to do actual MARC cataloging. I've got OpenBook software downloaded but because it's still in beta (and may never move out of beta), I hesitate to use it for fear of losing data. This has led me to Koha. Koha seems to have a good OPAC module, but I'd like to know more about the database backend. Is it fully MARC supported? Does it have a GUI input tool? Can MARC records be imported? Any information you can give me would be much appreciated. Thanks. James Jacobs James R. Jacobs Graduate Reference Assistant Education/Social Science Library University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign Home: 303B1 Paddock Drive Savoy, IL 61874 (217)359-9283 jacobs(a)uiuc.edu http://radicallibrarian.org (\ {|||8- (/ ********************************************************** "Librarians, Dusty, possess a vast store of politeness. These are people who get asked regularly the dumbest questions on God's green earth. These people tolerate every kind of crank and eccentric and mouth-breather there is." --Garrison Keillor, "Lives of the Cowboys" ********************************************************** "But to live outside the law you must be honest." R.Zimmerman **********************************************************

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INSTALL file questions
by Waylon Robertson 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

The install file tells me to change output.pm (or pl.. cant remember) to point to the include directory.. problem is.. there are two include directories. What do i do?

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Please take goodrh@juno.com off E-Mail list
by Ray G Good 19 Mar '02

19 Mar '02

Thank you for all the e-mails I no longer have need for a program. Ray Good

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Koha Intranet v Internet
by Roger Buck 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

Hello. I am evaluating solutions for Internet access to library resources for kids with special needs. The library resources are centralised (a functioning school library) but the users are geographically remote. The server will be hosted off site (at ISP premises to maximise bandwidth for Internet connectivity) and so will need to be managed via Internet. So far, I know next-to-nothing about library systems but have reasonable technical expertise with Linux and networking... and happy to put in some effort. Given the (very limited ;^) information above, do you think Koha might be suitable for our needs? What is the difference between Koha Internet v intranet...? Thanks :-) R.

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gripe
by Kenneth Gonsalves 18 Mar '02

18 Mar '02

hi all i have a major gripe: koha doesnt run out of the box. ok. it is open source. but atleast you could add something in your INSTALL file to tell us that certain tables have to be manually filled in to start. i downloaded the archive for this list and spent two days distilling it. found that certain hardworking people actually found out - on their own - that some things had to be done manually to start up. agreed that you have done great work. do you think that it will take that long to add a little thingie to the end of your INSTALL file to tell us what we have to do manually to get the system up and running. one more gripe: you ask us to download from sourceforge. and then say 'ouch, those files are pretty old - try this link'. i personally think that you are doing opensource a disfavour. i'm from india. downloading is slow and expensive. please put your latest stuff where the search engines point regards kg

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