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update member record by self
by Library 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

hai, i want to know something, when a user log on to koha to check his/her dues, them the member home provide the option to update the member record,but if the member try to update & save the updated information,then it will not save in the members'database......why -- Librarian Guru Nanak Dev Engineering College Ludhiana (Punjab) India

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documentation
by Scott Scriven 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Hi. I was just wondering what documentation is available for Koha, and if it would be possible to keep track of it in some unified place on koha.org. It just occurred to me today that many of the questions people have could be answered or handled by online documentation, especially if it included HOWTOs for common tasks and a good index of available info. ... And koha.org has no documentation section. At the very least, koha.org should probably have a "Documentation" tab along with its other main navigation, and its /doc/ directory should provide links to all known sources of useful Koha info. I managed to find a Koha wiki, but it is far from obvious that it exists, or is used. What sort of wiki is it? Who runs it? Does it use any sort of version control? Does anyone review it to keep it organized and accurate? Does anyone import outside articles into it, to keep things unified and accessible? -- Scott

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Cargar formato MARC
by Marco Antonio Castillo Arreozola 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Hola Como puedo dentro de Koha, cargar el formato MARC que me da la web de la Bilioteca del Congreso http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First Por ejemplo, tengo una lista con los ISBN de nuestra biblioteca, tecleo un ISBN en la web del congreso, selecciono busqueda por ISBN, MARC format, imprimir o guardar. Esto me arroja un número que quiero cargar al koha. Donde puedo encontrar un manual referente a esto? Gracias! Marco Antonio Castillo Colegio Euroamericano de Monterrey _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Loading MARC Format
by Marco Antonio Castillo Arreozola 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Hi How can I load into de Koha, the MARC Format that give me the web of The Library of Congress http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First For example, I have a list of ISBN, I type the ISBN on the web of The Library of Congress and select ISBN, MARC Format and print or save. Where can I get a how-to or manual about it? Thanks! Marco Antonio Castillo Euroamerican School of Monterrey _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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user's clarification
by Library 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

hai, how can a user search about his/her dues using koha2.0.0 because their is no flag to permit them to see their dues,i think koha users need for a flag named "view dues" which may be need to enter the membership number of user ID & password. -- Kanwal Librarian Guru Nanak Dev Engineering College Ludhiana (Punjab) India

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Re: [Koha] MARC tag structure
by Baljkas Family 24 Aug '04

24 Aug '04

Wednesday, August 18, 2004 17:54 CDT Hi, Suzanne, Chris responded with the answer to the most important part of your query, so you now have the solution you need. As for a few other parts, I will pick up on your rant with a little one of my own ... > I am not a librarian, but know the dewey decimal system > and how to run a library, in general. I am starting my 6th > year as the librarian at a small (just over 100 students) > K-8 school. When I started here, the library was > computerized using a system by the Follette [i.e. Follett] > Company. It was pretty straight forward and the previous > librarian taught me every thing I would need to know (so I > thought). I am going to leave aside the whole issue of what a person should know or be expected to know to run a school library, or other library for that matter. I would have you know and recognise, Suzanne, that there are MANY people in the United States and Canada (I cannot speak for elsewhere), who are being done out of jobs or have been "downsized", simply because administrators think there is *no* difference between a librarian, a library technician/technical assistant, and a clerk with no library training at all. You are touching on a very sensitive subject for many people who were trained in library science and have aspired to work full-time in the library world in one capacity or another. On to more concrete matters ... If it is the Follett system I think you mean -- it never hurts to be specific, BTW -- then it is really just an elaborated circ system with an OPAC of sorts. It does not even come close to what Koha endeavours to do as a true Integrated Library System (ILS). > All the previous versions of koha had everything our > library needed. This new version is giving me way too much > information. This echoes an exchange between Chris Cormack and myself more than a year ago now. Although many of us think Koha is great, it still doesn't provide enough information options for larger libraries with more complex catalogues. Chris, maybe the solution is to distinguish more clearly what functions are going to be necessary/desired for the adopting library (a checklist in a README file?) and identify that turn-off-MARC function more clearly (I thought it was pretty clear but it still seems to be tripping people up). Skipping the rest of what you wrote about MARC -- which, if you invest some time in learning about it now will repay you vastly in saved time cataloguing in the future -- ... > Why the heck am I being put through all this trouble when > the last version was filling all the needs of our small > library? Because, Suzanne, not all libraries are small libraries, and as great as Koha is, it can only progress further by FULLY adopting the STANDARDS that are recognised by PROFESSIONALS and PARA-PROFESSIONALS as PROFESSIONAL. As noted above, Koha still has a ways to go. Thankfully, there is the turn-off-MARC provision to help you and other small library users from dealing with complexities that you are not ready for or do not desire to deal with in the meantime. And on the final matter you mentioned ... > P.S. I used to be on the koha mailing list. I haven't > received any messages since early July. I'm not sure if > this is the correct e-mail address to which I should send > this plea. If not, please forward this message to the > proper address. I can't tell if someone corrected this for you and forwarded it or not, but I can assure you that the Koha-ites have been very busy this summer and you certainly should have received many messages since early July. Is it possible that your school's admin has set up something to block spam that is eliminating your Koha messages? In the school divisions I've worked for, staff had to submit listserv sending addresses so that they wouldn't get blocked as junk. If you know that you submitted your address correctly, check with your sys admin. Failing that possibility, maybe just try submitting another address. You should be able to read/check through the Archive online to see what you've missed. Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada

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Re: Re: [Koha] A quick question on biblioitems.dewey field's datatype
by Baljkas Family 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

Monday, August 23, 2004 16:22 CDT Hi, Bob, Indranil et alii, Just adding another 2 cents here, just FYI on the cataloguing matter touched on ... > From: Bob Seidl <singularity(a)wi.rr.com> > Date: 2004/08/23 Mon AM 07:51:13 CDT > To: Koha Users List <koha(a)lists.katipo.co.nz> > Subject: Re: [Koha] A quick question on biblioitems.dewey field's datatype > > Indranil Das Gupta wrote: > > >On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 22:49, MJ Ray wrote: > > > > > >>On 2004-08-22 12:06:33 +0100 Indranil Das Gupta <indradg(a)icbic.com> > >>wrote: > >> > >>>Why is the biblioitems.dewey field set to double(8,6) and not to, say > >>>varchar(15) or something like that? > >>> > >>I think quite a few developers have been wondering that recently, too. > >>Unless there's a killer reason to keep it numeric, I expect it to > >>change in 2.1.* before much longer. > >> > >Thanks for the info. At my deployment site, use of double precision > >datatype was leading to the decimal part of the stored dewey number > >being padded with extra zeros. And this was reflecting a wrong value in > >the OPAC interface. > > > >So, I simply changed the fieldtype to varchar(15) and rerun > >misc/rebuildnonmarc.pl. Now, the dewey value is being correctly stored > >in biblioitems.dewey and properly displayed in the OPAC. > > > >So far, I haven't noticed any inconsistency due to the change. > > > >cheers, > >-indra. > > > Not knowing the language very well, and not knowing the dewey > decimal system very well, I can nonetheless venture a guess based upon > my experience in other computer areas. > If the number of characters after the decimal point ever changes, > then it will not sort properly. That is definitely the case, Bob. The Dewey Decimal Classification system uses each position 100s, 10s, 1s, tenths, hundredths, thousandths and so on to be more specific about a book's content. There are other bits that are added on to even these, so that if a library wants to do so, the numbers can get VERY long and VERY specific. You may notice on the back of the title page (t.p.) that when Dewey numbers are given there are little prime marks (') after one or more groups. This is to help cataloguers out by suggesting specific places to stop number building. E.g. (an ex. appropriate to the Koha community): Random acts of kindness / the editors of Conari Press ; foreword by Daphne Rose Kingma ; introduction by Dawna Markova. -- CIP gives 177'.7 If the library's collection were small (overall or in that area) or for other reasons where a long number is not desirable, the number could be stopped at 177 (and augmented with cutter number, etc. as per local practice); or, if the collection were larger (overall or in that area) or for other reasons, the number could be the complete 177.7 (again augmented as noted). The difference here would be between classing a book on the Ethics of social relations (177) vs. the more specific Ethics of social relations - Love (including benevolence, charity, kindness, liberality, philanthropy) (177.7), not something a patron might even notice. With some topics, though, the 'base' number goes to 3 decimal places (a random example: School journalism = 371.897). And when you add in numbers for geography and classes of persons, and so on, you can get quite specific and consequently quite long numbers. > If the field is changed to varchar, I would make sure to > put in some sort of edit mask / edit check to verfy > the number of characters after the decimal point. If there > are less than some minimal number, space fill to the > right. I am sorry for being dull here, Bob, but I don't understand what this would do. Does what you're proposing mean that instead of the zeros that were a problem for Indranil, there would be blank space filed instead? Wouldn't that distort numbers, too? Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada

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by Zhou, Lu - OSHA CTR 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

please unsubscribe thank you

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A quick question on biblioitems.dewey field's datatype
by Indranil Das Gupta 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

Hi, Why is the biblioitems.dewey field set to double(8,6) and not to, say varchar(15) or something like that? After all in the MARC subfield table the dewey gets stored in a varchar(255) field. Any pointers/clues on this? tia -indra -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Indranil Das Gupta, Project Lead, CASTLE Project [Computer Aided Studies, Teaching and Learning Environment] In collaboration with: West Bengal University of Technology Calcutta, INDIA www.wbut.net ------------------------------------------------------------- L2C2.ORG - Bringing Localized Low-Cost Computing to People -------------------------------------------------------------

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Koha - Wellington users
by Dwyllis Maggs 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

Is there any library in the Wellington region using Koha? If yes can I pay a visit and have a play? cheers Dwyllis Dwyllis Maggs Temp Librarian/Records Co-ordinator Corporate Office Ministry of Housing Te Whare Ahuru ph 64- 4-474 2023 fax 64-4-499 4744 PO Box 10-729 Level 6, 256 Lambton Quay Wellington ############################################################ Attention: Any opinions expressed in this message are not necessarily those of the Ministry of Housing. This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivery to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. Please contact the sender and delete the message and any attachment from your computer. This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal www.marshalsoftware.com ############################################################

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