[Koha] Staging and matching authority records

Joy Nelson joy at bywatersolutions.com
Wed Dec 23 08:02:51 NZDT 2015 

Ian-
I normally do not see spaces in the LC number in authorities.

Thanks
Joy

On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Ian Bays <ian.bays at ptfs-europe.com> wrote:

> Thanks everyone.
>
> Encouraged by your successes I was not getting a match on the 010$a but
> noticed the contents had at least one space in it.
> I set up a test record without any spaces and found it is matching now.
>
> So it may be the index definitions for the 010$a in authorities that needs
> to allow for phrase or it may be that the 010$a should always have no
> spaces (or other white space).
>
> For those that are using the 010$a can anyone say if they know if any of
> their 010$a have space(s) in them?  The example I had been using was:
>
> "n  81032458 "
> That is two spaces after the "n" and one at the end.
>
> Many thanks.  It may be we need to change the contents of the 010$a to
> exclude spaces and on the import too.
>
> Thanks again.
> Ian
> On 22/12/2015 17:19, Hillyard, Cecil wrote:
>
>> We use this a lot to download batches of authority records from SkyRiver
>>
>> In Record Matching rules:
>>
>> Match points: Match point 1
>>         Search index: LC-card-number
>>         Score:  1000
>> Matchpoint components
>>         Tag: 010
>>         Subfield:s a
>>         Offset: 0
>>         Length: 0
>>
>> You just have to make sure that your current records do have 010s to
>> match on.
>>
>> __________________
>> Cecil Hillyard
>> Washoe County Library
>> Techinical Services
>> 775-327-8338
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Koha [mailto:koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Tomas
>> Cohen Arazi
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:50 AM
>> To: Christopher Davis
>> Cc: Koha
>> Subject: Re: [Koha] Staging and matching authority records
>>
>> Chris, we had trouble getting a matching rule for authorities. We ended
>> up using the 001 field I recall. It makes use of the Zebra indexes, so it
>> is important that you put the right one.
>>
>> 2015-12-22 13:40 GMT-03:00 Christopher Davis <cgdavis at uintah.utah.gov>:
>>
>> Ian,
>>>
>>> Joy's correct, while MARC authority records can have ISBNs, they
>>> typically do not. Sorry to lead you astray :-$
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Christopher Davis, MLS
>>> Systems & E-Services Librarian
>>> Uintah County Library
>>> cgdavis at uintah.utah.gov
>>> (435) 789-0091 ext.261
>>> uintahlibrary.org
>>> basinlibraries.org
>>> facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Joy Nelson <joy at bywatersolutions.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ian-
>>>> If you have the matching rule set up to match on the 010 subfield a
>>>> using the LC-cardnumber index, then the matching should happen if 1.
>>>> your authority records are indexed 2. you have 010$a in your
>>>> existing records AND in the incoming records
>>>>
>>> (and
>>>
>>>> matches do exist).
>>>>
>>>> (I'm assuming here that you've also specified the incoming file is
>>>> an authority file, not a bibliographic file. )
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure that using a 020 will assist you in matching as that is
>>>> a bibliographic tag, not an authority tag.  And I do not believe the
>>>> 020 is indexed for authority records.  A tag must be indexed in
>>>> order to be
>>>>
>>> used as
>>>
>>>> a match point.
>>>>
>>>> When troubleshooting, I generally find a record I know should match
>>>> and
>>>>
>>> then
>>>
>>>> look at the 010$a in the incoming file and existing record to see if
>>>>
>>> there
>>>
>>>> is anything that would potentially cause the match to fail.
>>>>
>>>> -Joy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Christopher Davis <
>>>>
>>> cgdavis at uintah.utah.gov>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> Off the top of my head, I thought that you might want to tried
>>>>> adding MARC authority field 020 (ISBN) as a match point to your
>>>>> matching point rule? Not every MARC authority record will have a
>>>>> LCCN (although most do).
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck and Merry Christmas,
>>>>>
>>>>> Christopher Davis, MLS
>>>>> Systems & E-Services Librarian
>>>>> Uintah County Library
>>>>> cgdavis at uintah.utah.gov
>>>>> (435) 789-0091 ext.261
>>>>> uintahlibrary.org
>>>>> basinlibraries.org
>>>>> facebook.com/uintahcountylibrary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Ian Bays
>>>>> <ian.bays at ptfs-europe.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are trying to stage some authority records to match existing
>>>>>> authority records to overlay them.
>>>>>> We have used the matching for bibliographic records successfully
>>>>>>
>>>>> before
>>>
>>>> but
>>>>>> are having difficulty with matching authority records.
>>>>>> The version of Koha is 3.20.01.000 and we are MARC21 using dom
>>>>>>
>>>>> indexing
>>>
>>>> and
>>>>>> icu chains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before getting into the details, can I ask if anyone has any
>>>>>>
>>>>> experience
>>>
>>>> of
>>>>>> matching authorities (staging and managing) with any success?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are trying to match on the 010$a and looking at the matching
>>>>>> rules documentation in:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://manual.koha-community.org/3.20/en/catadmin.html#recordmatchingr
>>> ules
>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ian Bays
>>>>>> Director of Projects, PTFS Europe Limited Content Management and
>>>>>> Library Solutions
>>>>>>
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