[Koha] tagging in koha

Thu May 26 00:38:35 NZST 2011

The fundamental problem with making Tags searchable as keywords is that they
are not part of the MARC records at all, and since Zebra builds it's search
indexes solely off the MARC, there is currently no way to inject the tags.

So, our options are:

1.  Put the tags into MARC fields, and index those (probably a bad idea for
any kind of record interoperability, and many catalogers will hate the idea
of the public being able to edit the MARC record)

2. Put the tags into a different metadata format and index them separately,
mixing in the results with the results for MARC fields.  Complicated, but
flexible.

3. Have a separate search mechanism for tags.  Not very integrated, and if
it's MySQL-based, will bog down like Koha did before Zebra.

I'm open to other ideas for how we could make tags more usable in Koha;
they're a great feature, they just need to be made more accessible.

-Ian

2011/5/24 G. Laws <glawson at rhcl.org>

>  When you have moderation turned on a staff person has to review and
> approve/reject the tags, so that's one place they are visible from the staff
> interface.
>
> That's also one of the features we want to improve. Right now there is no
> mechanism for editing the tags that someone posts. We want to have them
> editable to remove, as one example, profanity from an otherwise acceptable
> tag string, or to correct good, but <gregariously> misspelled, tags.
>
> If you go to the OPAC tag cloud, of course, you can see the tags listed and
> select a tag to see what it's been applied to, but that's not really like a
> search term.
>
> Greg
> ================
>
>
> On 05/24/2011 03:41 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
>
> Seems like that could be the best option, Greg. Though generally I equate
> tags with keywords and would think they should be searchable one in the
> same.
>
>  Is the only way to see tags when you're logged in as a patron, and
> looking at your own list?
> Also, reiterating what I asked before- has anyone tried the LibraryThing
> for Libraries tagging option? That might be the best way to go, though it
> does have a price.
>
>  CM
>
>  2011/5/24 G. Laws <glawson at rhcl.org>
>
>>  Maybe a tag should be a keyword search option in advanced search?
>>
>> Greg
>> -----------------------------
>>
>>
>> On 05/24/2011 03:28 PM, G. Laws wrote:
>>
>> We are considering, to be a bit more specific, funding improvements to the
>> tagging feature, and would happily welcome participative assistance in this
>> regard with any interested parties. If you are interested we can discuss it
>> with ByWater Solutions, with which we have been talking about enhancements,
>> or via direct email.
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> --------------------------------
>>
>>
>> On 05/24/2011 03:08 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
>>
>> Interesting- fixed the OPAC configuration, so thanks for that.
>>
>>  I'm also finding that although you can tag an item, you still can't
>> search for that tag and get any results. Seems silly to me that tagging
>> would be worth anything in Koha at all if that's the case. Maybe I'm just
>> not understanding the feature, but I would think that implementing tags
>> *should* be there to make searching more robust.
>>
>>  Has anyone had much luck with the LibraryThing for Libraries function?
>> My institution is thinking about getting it to fix this tagging issue. If
>> anyone is currently using it, I'd be curious to know whether or not it
>> allows you to find the tags in a catalog search.
>>
>>  Caitlin M
>>
>> 2011/5/24 G. Laws <glawson at rhcl.org>
>>
>>>  I don't think you can tag from the staff interface. We've talked about
>>> doing some tagging enhancements; so maybe this will be a good discussion
>>> topic.
>>>
>>> However, you clearly have a separate problem with tagging from the OPAC
>>> that needs to be resolved. You have to enable tagging in the staff
>>> interface. In the OPAC configuration there are several settings, like
>>> tagsenabled and tagsmoderated, etc. Check those.
>>>
>>> Of interest, however, I now see that the text for tagsenabled says it
>>> enables both patrons and staff to tag, so I don't know what's with that.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Greg Lawson
>>> Rolling Hills Consolidated Library
>>> 1912 N. Belt Highway
>>> St. Joseph, MO 64506816-232-5479 x2303
>>>
>>> -----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/24/2011 01:48 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hey all,
>>>
>>>  How does Tagging work in Koha? Can it be done through the
>>> administrative end? I can't find a section for it, other than from the
>>> patron side. When I try to add tags to certain books as a patron, they do
>>> not save and the item does not appear when a search is done for that tag
>>> after.
>>>
>>>  Suggestions?
>>>
>>>  CM
>>>
>>> --
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> The Schulz Library
> The Center for Cartoon Studies <http://www.cartoonstudies.org>
> McGurk at cartoonstudies.org*
>
>
>
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> Greg Lawson
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