The fundamental problem with making Tags searchable as keywords is that they are not part of the MARC records at all, and since Zebra builds it&#39;s search indexes solely off the MARC, there is currently no way to inject the tags.<br>
<br>So, our options are:<br><br>1.  Put the tags into MARC fields, and index those (probably a bad idea for any kind of record interoperability, and many catalogers will hate the idea of the public being able to edit the MARC record)<br>
<br>2. Put the tags into a different metadata format and index them separately, mixing in the results with the results for MARC fields.  Complicated, but flexible.<br><br>3. Have a separate search mechanism for tags.  Not very integrated, and if it&#39;s MySQL-based, will bog down like Koha did before Zebra.<br>
<br>I&#39;m open to other ideas for how we could make tags more usable in Koha; they&#39;re a great feature, they just need to be made more accessible.<br><br><br>-Ian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/24 G. Laws <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:glawson@rhcl.org">glawson@rhcl.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
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    When you have moderation turned on a staff person has to review and
    approve/reject the tags, so that&#39;s one place they are visible from
    the staff interface.<br>
    <br>
    That&#39;s also one of the features we want to improve. Right now there
    is no mechanism for editing the tags that someone posts. We want to
    have them editable to remove, as one example, profanity from an
    otherwise acceptable tag string, or to correct good, but
    &lt;gregariously&gt; misspelled, tags.<br>
    <br>
    If you go to the OPAC tag cloud, of course, you can see the tags
    listed and select a tag to see what it&#39;s been applied to, but that&#39;s
    not really like a search term.<br>
    <br>
    Greg<br>
    ================<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
    <br>
    On 05/24/2011 03:41 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">Seems like that could be the best option, Greg. Though
      generally I equate tags with keywords and would think they should
      be searchable one in the same. 
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      <div>Is the only way to see tags when you&#39;re logged in as a
        patron, and looking at your own list?</div>
      <div>Also, reiterating what I asked before- has anyone tried the
        LibraryThing for Libraries tagging option? That might be the
        best way to go, though it does have a price.</div>
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      <div>CM<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          2011/5/24 G. Laws <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:glawson@rhcl.org" target="_blank">glawson@rhcl.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
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            <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Maybe a tag should be
              a keyword search option in advanced search?<br>
              <br>
              Greg<br>
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                  On 05/24/2011 03:28 PM, G. Laws wrote:
                  <blockquote type="cite"> We are considering, to be a
                    bit more specific, funding improvements to the
                    tagging feature, and would happily welcome
                    participative assistance in this regard with any
                    interested parties. If you are interested we can
                    discuss it with ByWater Solutions, with which we
                    have been talking about enhancements, or via direct
                    email. <br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    Greg<br>
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                    On 05/24/2011 03:08 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
                    <blockquote type="cite">Interesting- fixed the OPAC
                      configuration, so thanks for that.
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I&#39;m also finding that although you can tag an
                        item, you still can&#39;t search for that tag and
                        get any results. Seems silly to me that tagging
                        would be worth anything in Koha at all if that&#39;s
                        the case. Maybe I&#39;m just not understanding the
                        feature, but I would think that implementing
                        tags *should* be there to make searching more
                        robust.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Has anyone had much luck with the
                        LibraryThing for Libraries function? My
                        institution is thinking about getting it to fix
                        this tagging issue. If anyone is currently using
                        it, I&#39;d be curious to know whether or not it
                        allows you to find the tags in a catalog
                        search. <br>
                        <br>
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                      <div>Caitlin M</div>
                      <div><br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/24 G. Laws <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:glawson@rhcl.org" target="_blank">glawson@rhcl.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                            <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I
                              don&#39;t think you can tag from the staff
                              interface. We&#39;ve talked about doing some
                              tagging enhancements; so maybe this will
                              be a good discussion topic.<br>
                              <br>
                              However, you clearly have a separate
                              problem with tagging from the OPAC that
                              needs to be resolved. You have to enable
                              tagging in the staff interface. In the
                              OPAC configuration there are several
                              settings, like tagsenabled and
                              tagsmoderated, etc. Check those.<br>
                              <br>
                              Of interest, however, I now see that the
                              text for tagsenabled says it enables both
                              patrons and staff to tag, so I don&#39;t know
                              what&#39;s with that.<br>
                              <br>
                              -- <br>
                              <pre cols="72">Greg Lawson
Rolling Hills Consolidated Library
1912 N. Belt Highway
St. Joseph, MO 64506
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                                  <br>
                                  On 05/24/2011 01:48 PM, Caitlin McGurk
                                  wrote: </div>
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                                <div>
                                  <div>Hey all,
                                    <div><br>
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                                    <div>How does Tagging work in Koha?
                                      Can it be done through the
                                      administrative end? I can&#39;t find a
                                      section for it, other than from
                                      the patron side. When I try to add
                                      tags to certain books as a patron,
                                      they do not save and the item does
                                      not appear when a search is done
                                      for that tag after.<br clear="all">
                                      <br>
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                                    <div>Suggestions?</div>
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                                    </div>
                                    <div>CM</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                      -- <br>
                                      Caitlin McGurk<br>
                                      <i>Librarian<br>
                                        The Schulz Library<br>
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