[Koha] tagging in koha

Thu May 26 02:31:28 NZST 2011

FYI, this functionality is how SOPAC2 works.  The tags added to the records
become part of the metadata associated with the item.

I recommend the person interested in this functionality look into using
SOPAC2 which is also open sourse (yay!) and I wonder also if it would be
worthwhile for developers (Ian?) to look at how SOPAC2 works for some ideas.
 As I understand, John Blyberg (developer of SOPAC2) uses Insurge to
accomplish this.  So, incorporating just the Insurge part of SOPAC2 might be
a possibility (said the non-developer who wanted to believe that everything
was so simple!).

Lori

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2011/5/25 Ian Walls <ian.walls at bywatersolutions.com>

> The fundamental problem with making Tags searchable as keywords is that
> they are not part of the MARC records at all, and since Zebra builds it's
> search indexes solely off the MARC, there is currently no way to inject the
> tags.
>
> So, our options are:
>
> 1.  Put the tags into MARC fields, and index those (probably a bad idea for
> any kind of record interoperability, and many catalogers will hate the idea
> of the public being able to edit the MARC record)
>
> 2. Put the tags into a different metadata format and index them separately,
> mixing in the results with the results for MARC fields.  Complicated, but
> flexible.
>
> 3. Have a separate search mechanism for tags.  Not very integrated, and if
> it's MySQL-based, will bog down like Koha did before Zebra.
>
> I'm open to other ideas for how we could make tags more usable in Koha;
> they're a great feature, they just need to be made more accessible.
>
>
> -Ian
>
> 2011/5/24 G. Laws <glawson at rhcl.org>
>
>>  When you have moderation turned on a staff person has to review and
>> approve/reject the tags, so that's one place they are visible from the staff
>> interface.
>>
>> That's also one of the features we want to improve. Right now there is no
>> mechanism for editing the tags that someone posts. We want to have them
>> editable to remove, as one example, profanity from an otherwise acceptable
>> tag string, or to correct good, but <gregariously> misspelled, tags.
>>
>> If you go to the OPAC tag cloud, of course, you can see the tags listed
>> and select a tag to see what it's been applied to, but that's not really
>> like a search term.
>>
>> Greg
>> ================
>>
>>
>> On 05/24/2011 03:41 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
>>
>> Seems like that could be the best option, Greg. Though generally I equate
>> tags with keywords and would think they should be searchable one in the
>> same.
>>
>>  Is the only way to see tags when you're logged in as a patron, and
>> looking at your own list?
>> Also, reiterating what I asked before- has anyone tried the LibraryThing
>> for Libraries tagging option? That might be the best way to go, though it
>> does have a price.
>>
>>  CM
>>
>>  2011/5/24 G. Laws <glawson at rhcl.org>
>>
>>>  Maybe a tag should be a keyword search option in advanced search?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> -----------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/24/2011 03:28 PM, G. Laws wrote:
>>>
>>> We are considering, to be a bit more specific, funding improvements to
>>> the tagging feature, and would happily welcome participative assistance in
>>> this regard with any interested parties. If you are interested we can
>>> discuss it with ByWater Solutions, with which we have been talking about
>>> enhancements, or via direct email.
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> --------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/24/2011 03:08 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting- fixed the OPAC configuration, so thanks for that.
>>>
>>>  I'm also finding that although you can tag an item, you still can't
>>> search for that tag and get any results. Seems silly to me that tagging
>>> would be worth anything in Koha at all if that's the case. Maybe I'm just
>>> not understanding the feature, but I would think that implementing tags
>>> *should* be there to make searching more robust.
>>>
>>>  Has anyone had much luck with the LibraryThing for Libraries function?
>>> My institution is thinking about getting it to fix this tagging issue. If
>>> anyone is currently using it, I'd be curious to know whether or not it
>>> allows you to find the tags in a catalog search.
>>>
>>>  Caitlin M
>>>
>>> 2011/5/24 G. Laws <glawson at rhcl.org>
>>>
>>>>  I don't think you can tag from the staff interface. We've talked about
>>>> doing some tagging enhancements; so maybe this will be a good discussion
>>>> topic.
>>>>
>>>> However, you clearly have a separate problem with tagging from the OPAC
>>>> that needs to be resolved. You have to enable tagging in the staff
>>>> interface. In the OPAC configuration there are several settings, like
>>>> tagsenabled and tagsmoderated, etc. Check those.
>>>>
>>>> Of interest, however, I now see that the text for tagsenabled says it
>>>> enables both patrons and staff to tag, so I don't know what's with that.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Greg Lawson
>>>> Rolling Hills Consolidated Library
>>>> 1912 N. Belt Highway
>>>> St. Joseph, MO 64506816-232-5479 x2303
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/24/2011 01:48 PM, Caitlin McGurk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hey all,
>>>>
>>>>  How does Tagging work in Koha? Can it be done through the
>>>> administrative end? I can't find a section for it, other than from the
>>>> patron side. When I try to add tags to certain books as a patron, they do
>>>> not save and the item does not appear when a search is done for that tag
>>>> after.
>>>>
>>>>  Suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>  CM
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Caitlin McGurk
>>>> *Librarian
>>>> The Schulz Library
>>>> The Center for Cartoon Studies <http://www.cartoonstudies.org>
>>>> McGurk at cartoonstudies.org*
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>> Caitlin McGurk
>> *Librarian
>> The Schulz Library
>> The Center for Cartoon Studies <http://www.cartoonstudies.org>
>> McGurk at cartoonstudies.org*
>>
>>
>>
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>> Rolling Hills Consolidated Library
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>> St. Joseph, MO 64506816-232-5479 x2303
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