[Koha] Koha demo links on koha.org

[Nicole Engard]

Thomas, you misunderstood me.  I wasn't saying not to remove the links
to version of Koha that not everyone can have access to - I was saying
- don't leave the demos section blank - make sure we find a genuine
Koha demo to replace them with.  Vendors with their own versions of
Koha can have those demos on their own sites, but they don't belong on
koha.org.

Nicole

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Thomas Dukleth <thomasd at agogme.com> wrote:
> While it is certainly inappropriate for the only linked demonstrations to
> not include running community versions of the code, I agree with Nicole
> Engard in not asking for the removal of LibLime demonstration links, at
> least at this time.  Rather than merely encouraging links to many
> demonstrations from particular support companies, I suggest that the
> support companies volunteer and/or co-operate in producing some especially
> good community demonstrations which are not an advertisement for any
> particular support company.  The French demonstrations at the French Koha
> website, http://www.koha-fr.org/ , are run by BibLibre but they do not
> contain anything which could be construed as an advertisement for
> BibLibre.
>
> Community demonstrations which do not advertise support services via
> logins, URLs, or other means should be listed first.  If some have an
> interest in providing other demonstrations which may be of interest for
> providing different configuration examples but may contain some subtle
> advertisement then those should be listed afterwords with some appropriate
> label separating them.
>
> Removing the only demonstrations now would be counter-productive.
> Furthermore, we should not push LibLime further away from the rest of the
> Koha community than they are taking themselves.  We should welcome any
> change of stance that they might have on community participation in future
> without holding anything against them.
>
> There had been a time when the only English community demonstrations were
> provided by LibLime and as long as no one else was offering any others it
> was difficult to question their use as advertising for one particular
> support company.  There are now other options and interested people should
> put those forward.
>
>
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> On Thu, October 8, 2009 19:28, Nicole Engard wrote:
>> Owen, I'd actually change that and say that the demo links shouldn't
>> be removed - there are plenty of genuine Open Source Koha
>> installations that can be used instead - I know that ByWater has some:
>> http://bywatersolutions.com/content/category/4/21/42/
>>
>> Nicole
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Owen Leonard <oleonard at myacpl.org> wrote:
>>> I think it's inappropriate for Koha.org to link to LibLime demos,
>>> given the fact that LibLime's demo page explicitly showcases "LibLime
>>> Enterprise Koha," a closed version of Koha which has not been shared
>>> with the community. Demoing LEK is useless to those who wish to
>>> participate in the Open Source Koha. I call on LibLime to either
>>> provide direct links to genuine Open Source Koha installations or
>>> remove the demo links.
>>>
>>>  -- Owen
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