I can't remember who wanted to know, so I'll tell you all: the link to the Kartouche translation helper software on http://www.kyfieithu.co.uk/downloads.php?lg=en has been updated to point to the current version. Kevin Donnelly is interested to hear about the software being used - his address is in the manual. -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only and not of any group I know Creative copyleft computing - http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ LinuxExpo.org.uk village 6+7 Oct http://www.affs.org.uk