[Koha] Use of indicators in field 245

[Giacomo Visini]

Hello Eric,

Thank you for the clear reply!

So it still might be worth using the indicators. It is something I’ll have to speak about with my colleagues 😊

Cheers,

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Van: Eric Phetteplace <ephetteplace at cca.edu>
Verzonden: woensdag 18 september 2019 18:55
Aan: Giacomo Visini <Giacomo.VISINI at divaantwerp.be>
CC: koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Onderwerp: Re: [Koha] Use of indicators in field 245

Hi Giacomo,

You're right that the second indicator, nonfiling characters, doesn't really seem to do anything. It's an archaic holdover and probably not needed with the complicated indexing mechanisms that are available to us now. It's pretty trivial for machines to skip leading stopwords like "the" etc. without instruction.

The first indicator is still meaningful, I believe. Having a main entry under one of the 1XX fields and then a title added entry is enabled by this indicator. So following this example documentation<https://www.itsmarc.com/crs/mergedprojects/conser/conser/module_7_4__ccm.htm> I found:

111 2# $a Federal Management Improvement Conference.
245 10 $a Proceedings of the Federal Management Improvement Conference.

The "title" of the serial is the name of the conference and the 245 is used as an added entry. I'm not a cataloger so the function of a title added entry isn't entirely clear to me but a lot  (about half) of our records have this indicator set to 1.

So our records still use both indicators, however we mainly copy catalog. It makes sense to keep using the fields especially when it's free like this. Just because they don't have a lot of importance in Koha doesn't mean another system won't care about them and it makes the data more consistent with other MARC repositories.

Best,

ERIC PHETTEPLACE Systems Librarian (he/him)

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On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 12:07 AM Giacomo Visini <Giacomo.VISINI at divaantwerp.be<mailto:Giacomo.VISINI at divaantwerp.be>> wrote:
Hi fellow Koha users,

Just a quick question. Can someone shed a light on the use of the indicators in field 245? Since our conversion to Koha we stopped using them, but data from previous systems has these indicators filled in. Upon inspection, in most cases the given value is even wrong somehow (0's are 1's etc.). But it doesn't seem to affect indexation.

So my question is, is there no need to fill in the indicators of field 245? Do you guys use them? For what purpose?

For the sake of exhaustivity: we are currently using version 18.11.06.000

Thanks in advance for any replies.

Kind regards,

Giacomo Visini I Bibliotheekmedewerker
DIVA, Antwerp Home of Diamonds
Gildekamersstraat 9, B-2000 Antwerpen
T + 32 3 360 52 42
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