[Koha] Migrating, analyticals and MARC frameworks

Elaine Bradtke bradtke.e at googlemail.com
Thu Dec 3 00:58:43 NZDT 2009


Very useful, thanks
Your examples confirmed that at least from a MARC point of view, I
hadn't done anything wrong. I've got it displaying in both the staff
and the OPAC, but it's not a live link.  We're still in the testing
phase, and  I'm running a slightly out of date version (3.00.01.05) on
my Mac at the moment because  the VMware version doesn't seem to
update. This may be why it's not working properly. At the moment,
we're concentrating on tweaking the data migration process, and
cleaning up the source data so that it will convert nicely.  When we
do the install for real on the server we'll use the the latest
version. But it is nice to know that it will work, once everything is
in place.
Elaine

On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Patrick - Biblioteca Casa Balthasar
<biblioteca at casabalthasar.org> wrote:
> No problem Elaine,
> I really couldn't say if you've missed something, as far as I can remember
> this worked out of the box for us (3.0.2).  One thing I just noticed, and
> that may explain your problem, is that this does work out of the box in the
> OPAC client, but it is not displayed in the detail view of the staff client.
>  I believe you'd have to customize your xslt templates to make this display
> in the staff.  Also, the biblio number to use is the biblio number internal
> to Koha, that is displayed in the URL in the biblio detail view or in the
> MARC view from the staff client after 'MARC biblio :'.
> Below is the MARC from a couple of biblios, one a parent (which in turn has
> it's own parent) and one of it's child biblios:
> PS. Don't forget to reply to the whole list.
> Best,
> Patrick
>
> LDR 00863nam a2200241 u 4500
> 005     20091020153016.0
> 008     091020s1975    xx ||||| |||||||| ||ita||
> 100 1  _9133
>        _aBalthasar, Hans Urs von,
>        _d1905-1988
> 245 10 _aGloria : Una estetica teologica.
> 260    _aMilano:
>        _bJaca Book,
>        _c1975.
> 300    _a7 v.
> 440  0 _aGià e non ancora;
> 650    _92884
>        _aBalthasar, Hans Urs von - Letteratura primaria A (libri primari)
> 773 0  _tTrilogia
>        _w6964
> 774 0  _tVol. 1. La Percezione della forma
>        _w3118
> 774 0  _tVol. 2. Stili ecclesiastici
>        _w5033
> 774 0  _tVol. 3. Stili Laicali
>        _w5034
> 774 0  _tVol. 4. Nello spazio della metafisica: l'antichità
>        _w4097
> 774 0  _tVol. 5. Nello spazio della metafisica: l'epoca moderna
>        _w4096
> 774 0  _tVol. 6. Antico Patto
>        _w177
> 774 0  _tVol. 7. Nuovo Patto
>        _w4147
> 942    _cLIB
> 999    _c6961
>        _d6961
>
> LDR 01103nam a2200253 u 4500
> 005     20090625112100.0
> 008     090624s1975    xx ||||| |||||||| ||ita||
> 100 1  _9133
>        _aBalthasar, Hans Urs von,
>        _d1905-1988
> 243 10 _aGloria. Una estetica teologica.
>        _nI
> 245 13 _aLa percezione della forma.
> 250    _a1a ed.
> 260    _aMilano :
>        _bJaca Book,
>        _c1975.
> 440  0 _aGià e non ancora ;
>        _v3
> 510 4  _aH.U. von Balthasar Bibliographie 1925-2005,
>        _cA 32
> 534    _pTraduzione di:
>        _tHerrlichkeit: Eine theologische Ästhetik : Schau der Gestalt.
>        _cJohannes Verlag, 1961.
>        _b1a ed.
> 650 04 _92884
>        _aBalthasar, Hans Urs von - Letteratura primaria A (libri primari)
> 700 1  _92300
>        _aRuggieri, G.,
>        _etr.
> 773 0  _tTrilogia:
>        _w6964
> 773 0  _tGloria: Una estetica teologica:
>        _w6961
>        _gVol. I
> 942    _2z
>        _cLIB
> 952    _p9048
>        _40
>        _00
>        _6BH_IIT
>        _94130
>        _bCB
>        _10
>        _oB.H I-it
>        _d2009-06-28
>        _70
>        _cBB
>        _2z
>        _yLIB
>        _aCB
> 952    _p8214
>        _40
>        _00
>        _6BH_IIT
>        _94131
>        _bCB
>        _10
>        _oB.H I-it
>        _d2009-06-28
>        _70
>        _cVB1pr
>        _2z
>        _yLIB
>        _aCB
> 952    _p3745
>        _40
>        _00
>        _6BH_IIT
>        _94132
>        _bCB
>        _10
>        _oB.H I-it
>        _d2009-06-28
>        _70
>        _cRB1pr
>        _2z
>        _yLIB
>        _aCB
> 999    _c3118
>        _d3118
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Elaine Bradtke <bradtke.e at googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Patrick.
>> I've enabled the $w in the MARC framework, told it the Koha link was a
>> biblionumber and edited the ISBD so that it displays, but there
>> doesn't seem to be a working link.  Am I missing a step somewhere?.
>> Could you send me the MARC for an example that you have?
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Patrick - Biblioteca Casa Balthasar
>> <biblioteca at casabalthasar.org> wrote:
>> > Elaine,
>> > Reguarding your second question:
>> >>
>> >> 2) Analyticals - we've got lots of them, and they're one of the most
>> >>
>> >> useful features of our database. One of our advisory committee has
>> >>
>> >> suggested that we make a live link between the child record (eg. a
>> >>
>> >> conference paper in a book of proceedings) and the parent record (the
>> >>
>> >> proceedings themselves).  I know where to do this in MARC, but I'm not
>> >>
>> >> sure what should go in there.  How do you put a hotlink between
>> >>
>> >> biblios?  Has anyone tried? Does it use the biblio number as a target?
>> >
>> > This feature works great in Koha and is easy enough to do.  Just put the
>> > biblio number in 773$w or 774$w depending on the relationship you want
>> > to
>> > establish between records. 773$t, the field for the title is required by
>> > Koha. The rest of the subfields along with the title will be
>> > concatenated
>> > into the text that is displayed to your users; here there's a great deal
>> > of
>> > flexibility in how you can use and also order the subfields.
>> > Best,
>> > Patrick Redmon
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Elaine Bradtke
>> > <bradtke.e at googlemail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> We're experimenting with migrating from a database into KOHA and I've
>> >> got three sort of interrelated questions.
>> >> 1) once you've sucked in the newly minted MARC (I'll skip over the
>> >> techno-magic our IT wizard is doing to get to that point) it seems as
>> >> if it's still necessary to go into the MARC record and add info into
>> >> 003 005 and 008 fields.  Is there any way that can be done either as
>> >> part of the conversion process or as part of the importation? If it
>> >> isn't done until sometime later (like when we get around to adding
>> >> barcodes), does it wreak havoc in some part of the system that I
>> >> haven't thought of?  It looks as if searching works fine on unedited
>> >> records.
>> >>
>> >> 2) Analyticals - we've got lots of them, and they're one of the most
>> >> useful features of our database. One of our advisory committee has
>> >> suggested that we make a live link between the child record (eg. a
>> >> conference paper in a book of proceedings) and the parent record (the
>> >> proceedings themselves).  I know where to do this in MARC, but I'm not
>> >> sure what should go in there.  How do you put a hotlink between
>> >> biblios?  Has anyone tried? Does it use the biblio number as a target?
>> >>
>> >> 3) There seem to be quite a profusion of MARC frameworks.  While I
>> >> understand it will be useful when we bring in our data on Serials, and
>> >> possibly the audio and video collections, I'm wondering what the point
>> >> is for all the rest of the stuff.  I've had to do some tweaking to the
>> >> MARC framework to accommodate some of the complexities of our
>> >> collection.  So far I've done this in the Books, Booklets, Workbooks
>> >> framework.  But the import seems to go into the Default framework.
>> >> Should I be making all my tweaks in the Default framework and not
>> >> worry about the others for now? The items we're currently attempting
>> >> to import are (mostly) some form of printed material.
>> >>
>> >> 4) Ours is primarily a research collection with very few items that
>> >> circulate and very few borrowers. I'd like to switch off the display
>> >> of the 'not for loan' status, and perhaps hide the number of items
>> >> (since, in the case of the analyticals it will say no items, which
>> >> might be confusing).  Has anyone made this sort of modification?
>> >>
>> >> thanks!
>> >> --
>> >> Elaine
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>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Elaine
>
>



-- 
Elaine


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