[Koha] AmazonContent-- Hit and Miss?

Max Crowe newdurhamlibrary at gmail.com
Sat Aug 23 03:54:54 NZST 2008


Ata:

That's it exactly!  The 10 digit ISBN number has to be present, and first.
The 13 digits don't work at all.

Thanks, everyone.   At least I know how to proceed at this point to get my
new items connecting with Amazon.  But I wonder, might this be considered a
bug?   The plan, is, after all, to phase out ISBN-10...

Max

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Ata ur Rehman <ata.rehman at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think the problem is in ISBN13 (9780743290111).  I tried different
> options.  Here are the results:
>
> 1- Only ISBN13 (9780743290111) --> No Image and Review
> 2- Only ISBN10 (0743290119) --> Image and Reviews displayed
> 3- Both ISBN 13 and 10 (Same order, First 13 and 2nd 10) -- No Image and
> Review
> 4- Both ISBN 10 and 13 (Same order, First 10 and 2nd 13) -- Image and
> Reviews displayed
>
> (Note: I am using Koha 228 on Windows, not 3 :) )
>
> Ata
> LISolutions.org
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Max Crowe <newdurhamlibrary at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for everyone's help on this issue, although I'm still struggling to
>> figure out what's actually happening.  To respond to questions and
>> suggestions:
>>
>> 1) I am entering the ISBN without any hyphens or spaces.
>>
>> 2) We are talking about books for which the ISBN shouldn't have been
>> reissued.
>>
>> Let's take the book "Chasing Harry Winston" by Lauren Weisberger, for
>> example.  Below is the MARC record in our catalog:
>>
>> LDR 01080cam a22002894a 4500
>> 001 2008006696
>> 003 DLC
>> 005 20080807154700.0
>> 008 080214s2008 nyu 000 1 eng
>> 010 _a 2008006696
>> 020 _a9780743290111 :
>>   _c$25.95
>> 020 _a0743290119 :
>>   _c$25.95
>> 035 _a(NjBwBT)bt2008012287
>> 040 _aDLC
>>   _cDLC
>>   _dDLC
>>   _dNjBwBT
>> 043 _an-us-ny
>> 069 _a09912362
>> 082 14 _aFIC
>>   _214
>> 090 _aF WEI
>> 100 1 _aWeisberger, Lauren,
>>   _d1977-
>> 245 10 _aChasing Harry Winston /
>>   _cLauren Weisberger.
>> 260 _aNew York :
>>   _bSimon & Schuster,
>>   _cc2008.
>> 300 _a280 p. ;
>>   _c25 cm.
>> 520 _aMaking a pact that they will change the things that most challenge
>> them within a year's time, Manhattan friends Emmy, Leigh, and Adriana shed
>> their downtrodden identities in order to pursue the high life.
>> 852 1 _hF WEI
>>   _p34710000092498
>>   _808132008
>>   _9P25.95usd
>> 935 _a08122008
>> 999 _c11785
>>   _d11785
>> 952 _w2008-08-20
>>   _p34710000092498
>>   _r2008-08-20
>>   _40
>>   _00
>>   _6F_WEI
>>   _911817
>>   _bNDPL
>>   _10
>>   _oF WEI
>>   _d2008-08-20
>>   _8FIC
>>   _70
>>   _c5
>>   _2ddc
>>   _yBOOK
>>   _aNDPL
>>
>> Which does not retrieve an Amazon image or review.  Of course, Amazon has
>> all this info.  You can see it all at the page:
>>
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Harry-Winston-Lauren-Weisberger/dp/0743290119/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219350647&sr=8-1
>>
>> And if you look at the revelent portion of the page--
>>
>> Product Details
>> Hardcover: 288 pages
>> Publisher: Simon & Schuster (May 27, 2008)
>> Language: English
>> ISBN-10: 0743290119
>> ISBN-13: 978-0743290111
>> Product Dimensions: 9.4 x 6.1 x 1.1 inches
>>
>> --you can see that Amazon has the same ISBN numbers that I do!  This is a
>> book that came out in late May-- so I can't imagine what's going on here.
>>  Why are some of my items correctly interfacing with Amazon, while others
>> aren't?  I've honestly been pouring over MARC records trying to figure out
>> the "magic" difference between books that retrieve hits on Amazon, and books
>> that don't.   But I'm stumped-- what am I missing?
>>
>> And are other libraries having similar issues, here?  Or is it just me?
>>
>> Max
>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Joe Atzberger <ohiocore at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> The Amazon images are retrieved by ISBN, so you might want to check your
>>> ISBNs against the hits you get at Amazon.  With older items, the likelihood
>>> of having been issued and reissued under multiple ISBNs is rather high.
>>>
>>> I'll leave the question of where to catalog ISBNs for others to address.
>>>
>>>
>>> --joe
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Max Crowe <newdurhamlibrary at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi:
>>>>
>>>> I'm a Library Director at a small library in New Hampshire.  We just
>>>> started using Koha (3.00.00.107), and we're using the AmazonContent
>>>> function to have our catalog pick up book covers and reviews from Amazon.
>>>> It works, but I can't help but notice that the hit rate for the interface is
>>>> rather low-- there's a large number of items in our collection for which we
>>>> aren't getting any book covers or reviews.  This would be expected,
>>>> certainly, for some of the older and more esoteric things in our
>>>> collection.  But I'm finding that even as I catalog new items-- Love the One
>>>> You're With by Emily Griffin, for example-- they also aren't getting any
>>>> hits from Amazon.  (And, if you search Amazon, you can easily find the book
>>>> cover and reviews.)
>>>>
>>>> Are any other libraries using this function?  If so, what sort of
>>>> hit/miss ratio are you getting?  Is there some field I should be using when
>>>> cataloging to ensure this function works better?
>>>>
>>>> Max Crowe,
>>>> Library Director
>>>> New Durham Public Library
>>>>
>>>
>>
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