[Koha] [Koha-devel] Should password be mandatory to send

[BOUIS Sonia]

Hi Katrin,
Thank you for this review of Bugzilla tickets. I can see that I'm not the only one to think that there's a lack of a notification to welcome our new users.  I thought that it will be simpler to use ACCTDETAILS but it seems that it's more complicated than I expected.
Perhaps a new notification could be a nice idea.

Sonia

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Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 21:01:35 +0200
From: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83 at web.de>
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Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] [Koha] Should password be mandatory to send
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Hi Sonia,

I think the ACCTDETAILS notice is a bit difficult. Last I checked I think it required you to enter email, userid and password before saving the patron the first time in order to work right. As it avoids the message queue there is no way to tell if the notice was sent correctly and there is no way to send it again.

There are some bugs filed in this context:

*Bug?9097*
<https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=9097> - 'Welcome mail' for new library users
*Bug?15834*
<https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15834> - Options to supress e-mail generated by AutoEmailOpacUser
*Bug?18543*
<https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18543> - Automated emails for new patron accounts with the AutoEmailOpacUser preference

I don't see a reason why password should be mandatory, other than it might lead to messages being sent out incomplete for libraries using it for this feature.

I think it might be a bit nicer to realize the idea of a separate 'welcome mail', that goes through the message queue and have an option to send it again if needed.

Hope that makes sense,

Katrin


On 11.04.19 09:31, BOUIS Sonia wrote:
> Hello,
> We wanted to send notices to our new external patrons using ACCDETAILS notice but, we have seen that in members/memberentry.pl, there's a checking to be sure there's a password for the patron.
> We don't use the password (this field is in the "BorrowerUnwantedField" system preference in our Koha) because we send our patrons in the university directory with a specific password not created in Koha.
> We would like to use the ACCTDETAILS notices to send our new patron a summary of the services provided by the library and to explain how they could connect to their account or how to change their password. We don't want to send them the password by email.
>
> Do you see a reason to keep checking if there's a password in memberentry.pl or do you think we could remove it?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>
> Cheers
>
> Sonia BOUIS
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