[Koha] Should XSLT add punctuation?

Mon Aug 27 12:12:23 NZST 2018

I believe Koha should be obbeying LDR/18 and a bug filed for that.

Best regards

El dom., 26 de ago. de 2018 18:40, Teresa Preston <
Teresa.Preston at parliament.govt.nz> escribió:

> Hi
> Is anyone else watching the PCC trial of removing ISBD punctuation? It
> started in February. I've copied a brief excerpt from the announcement
> below. The full announcement is available on the PPC website
> http://www.loc.gov/aba/pcc/ We copy-catalogue as much as possible and
> make our Koha as Marc21 compliant as we can so are watching to see what
> happens. Perhaps the issue of how Koha handles ISBD punctuation is
> something to consider for long term development?
> Teresa
>
> Teresa Preston
> Acting Research Resources Manager
> Parliamentary Service Te Ratonga Whare Pāremata
> Private Bag 18041, Wellington 6160, New Zealand
> www.parliament.nz
>
>
> Testing Use of Limited ISBD Punctuation in Bibliographic Records February
> 6, 2018 The Program for Cooperative Cataloging (PCC), OCLC, and SkyRiver
> will begin testing a possible transition to using limited ISBD punctuation
> in MARC 21 bibliographic records.  The test period will run through July 1,
> 2018, followed by an evaluation period that will culminate in a decision on
> whether to move forward.
> Rationale:
> Creating MARC 21 records without punctuation that duplicates MARC 21
> coding is expected to save time for catalogers, make it easier to map data
> to and from other formats, and allow for an easier transition to linked
> data. Creating records with limited ISBD punctuation simplifies data entry
> and allows catalogers to focus solely on coding to better identify parts of
> the bibliographic description. OCLC analysis of changes that catalogers
> make to existing bibliographic data indicates that edits to ISBD
> punctuation and associated spacing have little to no impact on retrieval
> and use.  In addition, this change would allow for flexibility in the
> design of online displays without the need for suppressing punctuation.
> Please see the Frequently Asked Questions<https://goo.gl/rcpCx2>   for
> additional information about the test.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Koha [mailto:koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Katrin
> Fischer
> Sent: Monday, 27 August 2018 5:41 AM
> To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> Subject: Re: [Koha] Should XSLT add punctuation?
>
> Hi Caroline.
>
> the question of ISBD punctuation has been giving us quite some trouble as
> in Germany it's usually not added (leader/18 as you pointed out).
>
> In Koha a compley 245 with abcnp will look wrong without any punctuation
> and Koha is not adding it. I think at the moment leader/18 is not checked
> at all, Koha assumes that it's dealing with records that contain ISBD
> punctuation, but often removes it.
>
> Not having 'grown up' with MARC21 the trailing '.' always looks a bit odd
> to me when it's displayed in the OPAC, but we should definitely be
> consistent.
>
> I don't have a clear opinion, but maybe we need to overhaul our XSLT and
> check for leader/18.
>
> Katrin
>
>
> On 22.08.2018 23:45, Caroline Cyr-La-Rose wrote:
> > Hello everyone!
> >
> > I have a question regarding the XSLT stylesheets (for MARC21). Is it
> > supposed to change the punctuation when displaying the record?
> >
> > For instance, I have a record where there is a period (.) at the end
> > of 100$e. So in MARC, it looks like
> >
> > 100 1#
> > a Goscinny, René,
> > d 1926-1977-,
> > e author.
> >
> > In intranet details, it looks like
> >
> > Goscinny, René, 1926-1977- [author.].
> >
> > There are two periods (and no comma after the date).
> >
> > In the 260 field, the opposite happens. There is a period at the end
> > of 260$c in MARC, but nothing is appearing in intranet results.
> >
> > 260 ##
> > a Paris :
> > b Gallimard jeunesse,
> > c [2014].
> >
> > In the intranet details, it looks like
> >
> > Paris : Gallimard jeunesse, [2014]
> >
> > There is no period after the date.
> >
> > It's not clear what the XSLT is trying to do. On one hand, it looks
> > like it's trying to complete the punctuation, but it removes it
> > sometimes.
> >
> > My knowledge of AACR2 rules for punctuation was wiped from my brain
> > the second I graduated ~10 years ago (maybe even before, if I'm being
> > really honest!), so I'm not even sure what the right punctuation is
> > supposed to be.
> >
> > But my question is if the XSLT is supposed to mess with the
> > punctuation or not? And if the answer is yes, shouldn't it look first
> > in leader/18 to see if the record already has punctuation?
> >
> >
> > Thank you for your help koha!
> >
> > Caroline
> >
> >
> > Caroline Cyr La Rose, M.L.I.S.
> > Librarian, Head of training and support inLibro
> >
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