[Koha] Spam from BestBookBuddies (OpenLX)

Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate sudhir at kalculate.com
Tue Sep 19 17:13:46 NZST 2017 

I would like to have a copy of this alleged mail, with complete headers.

Sudhir Gandotra

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:11 AM, vikram zadgaonkar <
vikramczadgaonkar at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> From yesterday we are getting sale/marketing spam emails from
> sudhir at openlx.com email ID for *www.BestBookBuddies.com
> <http://www.bestbookbuddies.com/> *. I believe others are also facing
> this problem.
> I request to address this issue.
>
> Vikram Zadgaonkar
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate <
> sudhir at kalculate.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jonathan, for pointing out that link on lislinks.com - it was a
>> un-intended mistake - not knowing that replying to different people would
>> get consolidated on one page. I have now deleted them, and will take care
>> of such things in future.
>>
>> My new request for registration can be the consolidation of earlier
>> listings.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Sudhir Gandotra
>> www.bestbookbuddies.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Jonathan Druart <
>> jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org> wrote:
>>
>> > This is spam:
>> > http://www.lislinks.com/forum/topics/how-to-import-data-
>> > from-libsys-to-koha
>> >
>> > Moreover the request you made got an answer: https://lists.katipo.
>> > co.nz/pipermail/koha/2016-November/046546.html
>> > => OpenLX is already listed.
>> > By the way the link to the demo is down.
>> >
>> > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 at 15:26 Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate <
>> > sudhir at kalculate.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well Chris Cormack,  It will be very interesting to note that a Koha
>> >> Service Provider with over 400 Libraries to his credit, will be removed
>> >> from the official list, because he sent a mail to a Library informing
>> about
>> >> his Koha Services.
>> >>
>> >> It will be an interesting standard to be fixed for this community and
>> to
>> >> be watched closely by many in the future.
>> >>
>> >> It is interesting to note that while you do not rightly want to be part
>> >> of the trouble between some service providers, you seem to be
>> influenced by
>> >> some of them. I hope I will be proven wrong on this point, which seems
>> to
>> >> be clear conclusion from what you wrote.
>> >>
>> >> *By the way, how do we decide that my mail to a library, a direct mail
>> >> sent to them, can be termed as a spam ?*
>> >>
>> >> *Since when, did people start talking of their services only when
>> someone
>> >> asks for them ?*
>> >>
>> >> I trust the common sense will prevail and all of us will remain
>> promoting
>> >> Koha and not the fears of some people around here.
>> >>
>> >> By the way, my request for being listed as a Koha service provider
>> >> (BestBook Buddies.com) is still not approved and I have resent the
>> request
>> >> today.
>> >>
>> >> Sudhir Gandotra
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc at catalyst.net.nz
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Just a quick note, unsolicited emails, or spam as it is commonly known
>> >>> is indeed a crime in some jurisdictions. And in almost every one it is
>> >>> against convention.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not going to respond to the rest of your email which reads as a
>> >>> personal fight between you and other Indian Koha developers/companies.
>> >>> Please leave this kind of email off the list in future.
>> >>>
>> >>> And if you plan to continue to send unsolicited emails to people then
>> I
>> >>> think the request to remove the listing should stand
>> >>>
>> >>> Chris
>> >>>
>> >>> On 9 August 2017 5:58:37 AM NZST, "Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate" <
>> >>> sudhir at kalculate.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear Jonathan Druart,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am rather surprised to note this mail.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The only mail that I see from you to me was as below :
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ------------------------------
>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org>
>> >>>> May 17
>> >>>> to koha
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear Sudhir Gandotra,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You are receiving this email because you are listed as a paid support
>> >>>> company on the Koha community website (https://koha-community.org/su
>> >>>> pport/paid-support).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We are updating the list of paid support companies for Koha on our
>> >>>> community website. Please, after reading this email, either hit
>> reply or
>> >>>> complete the form mentioned below to confirm you are still an active
>> >>>> support company.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The next development cycle of Koha (17.11) is going to start before
>> the
>> >>>> month of May is out.
>> >>>> Over the next 6 months we will be building the latest, even more
>> awesome,
>> >>>> release of Koha.  We strongly believe that having everybody involved
>> is
>> >>>> fundamental to achieving this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We want to build a task force and for that, we need to know who can
>> commit
>> >>>> time and effort that we can count on, in order to estimate the goals
>> we can
>> >>>> reach.
>> >>>> Even if you have never been involved in the Koha community but are
>> using
>> >>>> Koha, you can help us by committing just a few hours each month:
>> >>>> library workers or support companies can contribute massively by
>> providing
>> >>>> feedback, testing patches, contributing to the documentation or by
>> getting
>> >>>> involved in other specific tasks. Even if you do not know how to
>> code you
>> >>>> can help shape the next release and improve Koha.
>> >>>> If you want to help, or if you have specific requests for this
>> release,
>> >>>> please let us know by completing this form:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  https://framaforms.org/ready-to-help-the-koha-community-1493918217
>> <
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Just a couple of hours per month dedicated to the project is a huge
>> help!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best regards,
>> >>>> Jonathan Druart on behalf of the Koha community
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ------------------------------
>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have not replied to it, as I am usually been travelling
>> extensively for
>> >>>> the last 12 months, but, within our team, we are discussing as to
>> how we
>> >>>> can take this forward and start contributing to the Koha community in
>> >>>> future, starting in next few months.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *On the other hand, I would like to share the following with you :*
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> As duly acknowledged by the Koha community here, we are the entity
>> (then
>> >>>> known as Indserve Infotech Pvt. Ltd.) that introduced Koha in India
>> with
>> >>>> the first commercially done Koha implementation at Delhi Pubic
>> Library, in
>> >>>> 2007-08, for which I can show you the formal purchase order also.
>> >>>> Its another story that our trainee-engineer, who was trained by us
>> on this
>> >>>> project, left us, cheated us, took away the clients we were
>> negotiating and
>> >>>> harmed our work seriously, went to another company and is active on
>> Koha
>> >>>> even now.
>> >>>> We were forced to lie low for a while (due to illegal actions of a
>> large
>> >>>> MNC against us) and restarted our activities in a big way again in
>> 2010,
>> >>>> and after creating over 165 clients across 15 countries, have now
>> taken
>> >>>> Koha to new level, whereby we are offering the complete services
>> free of
>> >>>> cost and this is taking us places.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The amount of publicity, growth and expansion that we have done with
>> Koha
>> >>>> is tremendous when you see the number of clients, the spread of these
>> >>>> clients, and their support to us because of un-breaking services.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am aware that people like Vinod Mishra and some others are quiet
>> jealous
>> >>>> of us and now with these free services, they are, possibly, afraid of
>> >>>> losing their business. And, because of this, they find all kinds of
>> excuses
>> >>>> of speaking against us with clients and here also on the list.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I see no reason for deleting our name, because, caused by such
>> negative
>> >>>> people, it will only give bad name to the whole of community, a
>> cause to
>> >>>> which we have given our full support form the very beginning. And,
>> >>>> moreover, we have done nothing against Koha. Rather, with the number
>> of
>> >>>> libraries to our credit, we are among the biggest providers of Koha
>> >>>> services.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> To promote our services, we do send mails to libraries and in that
>> process,
>> >>>> the mail went to mycpl.org also. Owen Leonard felt bad about it,
>> wrote to
>> >>>> me, and I replied to him with my apologies, as our intentions have
>> solely
>> >>>> been to promote Koha. However, there is no law or convention that
>> says that
>> >>>> a Koha service provider cannot send promotional mails to libraries.
>> Please
>> >>>> help me understand this point better, if I am missing something.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I will not speak against any of them, as, that is neither my style,
>> nor am
>> >>>> I person driven by fears.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Being a Humanist, I am aware that I need to contribute to the good
>> of this
>> >>>> world, that has given me my life and everything else that I have and
>> I am
>> >>>> very happy contributing to Linux and Koha in my own way.
>> >>>> *I have not done much, with my more than 400 Libraries to my credit,
>> I
>> >>>> wonder if this is negligible.*
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> And, for that "crime" (if that's how these people will prefer to
>> term it),
>> >>>> as its being labelled by some ignorant ones, if you think Koha
>> community
>> >>>> will be happier without me on the list, let's set the new standards.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I am quiet aware that Koha is a community thing and fortunately not a
>> >>>> personal property of anyone, and due to that fact alone, it is
>> important,
>> >>>> that, as a Community, we set the highest standards, which are not
>> driven by
>> >>>> the fears of a few ignorant ones, but by the bold-selfless actions
>> of those
>> >>>> who do for the society.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I look forward to hearing from you on this.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I assure you that, very soon, you will find me increasingly active
>> on the
>> >>>> list.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> By the way, my request of adding my new company "Best Book Buddies"
>> to the
>> >>>> list of service providers is pending for around a year.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sudhir Gandotra
>> >>>> www.bestbookbuddies.com
>> >>>> +91-9810120918 <+91%2098101%2020918>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Druart <
>> >>>> jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I have sent them several emails and they never answered. They are
>> already
>> >>>>>  on my list of companies to remove from the list.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  Cheers,
>> >>>>>  Jonathan
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 at 08:56 Owen Leonard <oleonard at myacpl.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>  Has anyone else received spam from "BestBookBuddies   - an
>> Initiative
>> >>>>>>  of: OpenLX Technologies Pvt. Ltd." ? They recently spammed me and
>> >>>>>>  everyone else on my library's contact page.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  If it were up to me they would be removed from the list of paid
>> >>>>>>  support providers, but I don't think the rules explicitly forbid
>> >>>>>>  sending spam.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>   -- Owen
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>  --
>> >>>>>>  Web Developer
>> >>>>>>  Athens County Public Libraries
>> >>>>>>  http://www.myacpl.org
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>> >>>>>>
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>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> *Kind Regards** with Season's Greetings,*
>> >> *Sudhir Gandotra  |*
>> >> *  C. E. O.*
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>> *  C. E. O.*
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