[Koha] Spam from BestBookBuddies (OpenLX)
vikram zadgaonkar
vikramczadgaonkar at gmail.com
Mon Sep 18 16:41:16 NZST 2017
Dear All,
>From yesterday we are getting sale/marketing spam emails from
sudhir at openlx.com email ID for *www.BestBookBuddies.com
<http://www.bestbookbuddies.com/> *. I believe others are also facing this
problem.
I request to address this issue.
Vikram Zadgaonkar
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 1:09 AM, Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate <
sudhir at kalculate.com> wrote:
> Thanks Jonathan, for pointing out that link on lislinks.com - it was a
> un-intended mistake - not knowing that replying to different people would
> get consolidated on one page. I have now deleted them, and will take care
> of such things in future.
>
> My new request for registration can be the consolidation of earlier
> listings.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Sudhir Gandotra
> www.bestbookbuddies.com
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Jonathan Druart <
> jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org> wrote:
>
> > This is spam:
> > http://www.lislinks.com/forum/topics/how-to-import-data-
> > from-libsys-to-koha
> >
> > Moreover the request you made got an answer: https://lists.katipo.
> > co.nz/pipermail/koha/2016-November/046546.html
> > => OpenLX is already listed.
> > By the way the link to the demo is down.
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 at 15:26 Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate <
> > sudhir at kalculate.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well Chris Cormack, It will be very interesting to note that a Koha
> >> Service Provider with over 400 Libraries to his credit, will be removed
> >> from the official list, because he sent a mail to a Library informing
> about
> >> his Koha Services.
> >>
> >> It will be an interesting standard to be fixed for this community and to
> >> be watched closely by many in the future.
> >>
> >> It is interesting to note that while you do not rightly want to be part
> >> of the trouble between some service providers, you seem to be
> influenced by
> >> some of them. I hope I will be proven wrong on this point, which seems
> to
> >> be clear conclusion from what you wrote.
> >>
> >> *By the way, how do we decide that my mail to a library, a direct mail
> >> sent to them, can be termed as a spam ?*
> >>
> >> *Since when, did people start talking of their services only when
> someone
> >> asks for them ?*
> >>
> >> I trust the common sense will prevail and all of us will remain
> promoting
> >> Koha and not the fears of some people around here.
> >>
> >> By the way, my request for being listed as a Koha service provider
> >> (BestBook Buddies.com) is still not approved and I have resent the
> request
> >> today.
> >>
> >> Sudhir Gandotra
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Chris Cormack <chrisc at catalyst.net.nz>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just a quick note, unsolicited emails, or spam as it is commonly known
> >>> is indeed a crime in some jurisdictions. And in almost every one it is
> >>> against convention.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not going to respond to the rest of your email which reads as a
> >>> personal fight between you and other Indian Koha developers/companies.
> >>> Please leave this kind of email off the list in future.
> >>>
> >>> And if you plan to continue to send unsolicited emails to people then I
> >>> think the request to remove the listing should stand
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> On 9 August 2017 5:58:37 AM NZST, "Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate" <
> >>> sudhir at kalculate.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Jonathan Druart,
> >>>>
> >>>> I am rather surprised to note this mail.
> >>>>
> >>>> The only mail that I see from you to me was as below :
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org>
> >>>> May 17
> >>>> to koha
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear Sudhir Gandotra,
> >>>>
> >>>> You are receiving this email because you are listed as a paid support
> >>>> company on the Koha community website (https://koha-community.org/su
> >>>> pport/paid-support).
> >>>>
> >>>> We are updating the list of paid support companies for Koha on our
> >>>> community website. Please, after reading this email, either hit reply
> or
> >>>> complete the form mentioned below to confirm you are still an active
> >>>> support company.
> >>>>
> >>>> The next development cycle of Koha (17.11) is going to start before
> the
> >>>> month of May is out.
> >>>> Over the next 6 months we will be building the latest, even more
> awesome,
> >>>> release of Koha. We strongly believe that having everybody involved
> is
> >>>> fundamental to achieving this.
> >>>>
> >>>> We want to build a task force and for that, we need to know who can
> commit
> >>>> time and effort that we can count on, in order to estimate the goals
> we can
> >>>> reach.
> >>>> Even if you have never been involved in the Koha community but are
> using
> >>>> Koha, you can help us by committing just a few hours each month:
> >>>> library workers or support companies can contribute massively by
> providing
> >>>> feedback, testing patches, contributing to the documentation or by
> getting
> >>>> involved in other specific tasks. Even if you do not know how to code
> you
> >>>> can help shape the next release and improve Koha.
> >>>> If you want to help, or if you have specific requests for this
> release,
> >>>> please let us know by completing this form:
> >>>>
> >>>> https://framaforms.org/ready-to-help-the-koha-community-1493918217 <
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a couple of hours per month dedicated to the project is a huge
> help!
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Jonathan Druart on behalf of the Koha community
> >>>>
> >>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have not replied to it, as I am usually been travelling extensively
> for
> >>>> the last 12 months, but, within our team, we are discussing as to how
> we
> >>>> can take this forward and start contributing to the Koha community in
> >>>> future, starting in next few months.
> >>>>
> >>>> *On the other hand, I would like to share the following with you :*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As duly acknowledged by the Koha community here, we are the entity
> (then
> >>>> known as Indserve Infotech Pvt. Ltd.) that introduced Koha in India
> with
> >>>> the first commercially done Koha implementation at Delhi Pubic
> Library, in
> >>>> 2007-08, for which I can show you the formal purchase order also.
> >>>> Its another story that our trainee-engineer, who was trained by us on
> this
> >>>> project, left us, cheated us, took away the clients we were
> negotiating and
> >>>> harmed our work seriously, went to another company and is active on
> Koha
> >>>> even now.
> >>>> We were forced to lie low for a while (due to illegal actions of a
> large
> >>>> MNC against us) and restarted our activities in a big way again in
> 2010,
> >>>> and after creating over 165 clients across 15 countries, have now
> taken
> >>>> Koha to new level, whereby we are offering the complete services free
> of
> >>>> cost and this is taking us places.
> >>>>
> >>>> The amount of publicity, growth and expansion that we have done with
> Koha
> >>>> is tremendous when you see the number of clients, the spread of these
> >>>> clients, and their support to us because of un-breaking services.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am aware that people like Vinod Mishra and some others are quiet
> jealous
> >>>> of us and now with these free services, they are, possibly, afraid of
> >>>> losing their business. And, because of this, they find all kinds of
> excuses
> >>>> of speaking against us with clients and here also on the list.
> >>>>
> >>>> I see no reason for deleting our name, because, caused by such
> negative
> >>>> people, it will only give bad name to the whole of community, a cause
> to
> >>>> which we have given our full support form the very beginning. And,
> >>>> moreover, we have done nothing against Koha. Rather, with the number
> of
> >>>> libraries to our credit, we are among the biggest providers of Koha
> >>>> services.
> >>>>
> >>>> To promote our services, we do send mails to libraries and in that
> process,
> >>>> the mail went to mycpl.org also. Owen Leonard felt bad about it,
> wrote to
> >>>> me, and I replied to him with my apologies, as our intentions have
> solely
> >>>> been to promote Koha. However, there is no law or convention that
> says that
> >>>> a Koha service provider cannot send promotional mails to libraries.
> Please
> >>>> help me understand this point better, if I am missing something.
> >>>>
> >>>> I will not speak against any of them, as, that is neither my style,
> nor am
> >>>> I person driven by fears.
> >>>>
> >>>> Being a Humanist, I am aware that I need to contribute to the good of
> this
> >>>> world, that has given me my life and everything else that I have and
> I am
> >>>> very happy contributing to Linux and Koha in my own way.
> >>>> *I have not done much, with my more than 400 Libraries to my credit, I
> >>>> wonder if this is negligible.*
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And, for that "crime" (if that's how these people will prefer to term
> it),
> >>>> as its being labelled by some ignorant ones, if you think Koha
> community
> >>>> will be happier without me on the list, let's set the new standards.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am quiet aware that Koha is a community thing and fortunately not a
> >>>> personal property of anyone, and due to that fact alone, it is
> important,
> >>>> that, as a Community, we set the highest standards, which are not
> driven by
> >>>> the fears of a few ignorant ones, but by the bold-selfless actions of
> those
> >>>> who do for the society.
> >>>>
> >>>> I look forward to hearing from you on this.
> >>>>
> >>>> I assure you that, very soon, you will find me increasingly active on
> the
> >>>> list.
> >>>>
> >>>> By the way, my request of adding my new company "Best Book Buddies"
> to the
> >>>> list of service providers is pending for around a year.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sudhir Gandotra
> >>>> www.bestbookbuddies.com
> >>>> +91-9810120918 <+91%2098101%2020918>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Druart <
> >>>> jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I have sent them several emails and they never answered. They are
> already
> >>>>> on my list of companies to remove from the list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>> Jonathan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 at 08:56 Owen Leonard <oleonard at myacpl.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has anyone else received spam from "BestBookBuddies - an
> Initiative
> >>>>>> of: OpenLX Technologies Pvt. Ltd." ? They recently spammed me and
> >>>>>> everyone else on my library's contact page.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If it were up to me they would be removed from the list of paid
> >>>>>> support providers, but I don't think the rules explicitly forbid
> >>>>>> sending spam.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -- Owen
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Web Developer
> >>>>>> Athens County Public Libraries
> >>>>>> http://www.myacpl.org
> >>>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org
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> >>>>>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ------------------------------
> >>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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