[Koha] LibLime and Koha Community

Thu Feb 24 06:10:40 NZDT 2011

Speaking for myself (not the entire KUDOScon planning committee), I would
love for this to be a topic of discussion at the KUDOScon in May.

http://kudos.koha-community.org/kudoscon2011/

2011/2/17 Ian Walls <ian.walls at bywatersolutions.com>

> Thanks, Paul, for providing a good clear history.
>
> A little bit more:  the Harley code is based off Koha 3.01.00.061, which is
> a little over a year old.  As far as I know, it was a one-time release;
> there have not been new fixes added to the repository.  The new features it
> added are broken out onto topic branches, but in my working with them, I've
> found them not to be atomic; that is, new feature 13 depends on new features
> 1-12.  This makes it really hard to get them integrated, but progress is
> being made!  Check out
> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/PTFSHarleyIntegration
>
> I hope that we will continue to make progress on this, so we can get a
> solid upgrade path to Koha for those folks currently using Harley. Some
> features may be implemented different ways in Koha, but if we can get most
> of the good ideas integrated, libraries will have more options.
>
> I've got nothing worthwhile to say about LibLime Enterprise Koha, since I
> can't work with the code.  I hope that it will someday be released, as
> promised when the announcement was made back on '09, but either way, it
> doesn't affect my plan to keep working on making Koha better and better.
>
> Tom, hope this helped at least a little.  If you've got some time in May,
> you could swing by the KUDOS conference in Madison, WI, and talk with other
> US Koha users, of all varieties.  They'd be able to give you perspective I
> cannot (since I work for one of the Koha support companies in the US,
> ByWater Solutions).
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> -Ian
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Paul Poulain <paul.poulain at biblibre.com>wrote:
>
>> Le 17/02/2011 15:34, Tom Hanstra a écrit :
>> > I hope I'm not kicking a hornet's nest here.  I'm just trying to get a
>> > handle on how compatible these are and how to decide which version might
>> > best meet our local needs.
>> Definetly, and without any doubt : the koha-community version.
>> Definetly yes it's a hornet nest. So I'll try to answer clearly and
>> without awakening sleeping hornets ;-)
>>
>> Just to be clear : I'm Paul Poulain, from France, served as Release
>> Manager for Koha 2.0 and 2.2. I've founded BibLibre in France 3 years
>> ago. I have nothing against PTFS/LL but I think their strategy won't be
>> successfull. I think Koha project loosed many time with those problems,
>> but it's behind us now.
>>
>> A small history history :
>> * at the beginning (2000), koha.org was managed by katipo, where chris
>> C. and some other were working (katipo was the Koha v1 author)
>> * in 2007, LibLime bought koha.org, the katipo Koha dev team and katipo
>> New Zealand customers
>> * one year later, the katipo-now-LL ppl resigned from LL
>> * in 2008 PTFS started his involvement in Koha. They were coldly
>> welcomed by the community & LibLime (LL & PTFS are operating in US) They
>> sended some patches but were considered as a wolf in a sheepfold, so
>> patches were included, but always with a cold welcome. Note the
>> technical relationships have always be better than the strategic
>> relationships.
>> * in 2009, some/many devs from LL resigned as well and, in sept, 11th LL
>> announced LLEK, a hosted version that is not OpenSource because the
>> source is not distributed (reminder : koha.org is "owned" by LL...)
>> * in late 2009, early 2010, PTFS bought LL
>> * in early 2010, the koha community (ie : everybody except LL & PTFS)
>> decided to move to http://www.koha-community.org because we had no
>> control & easy access over the content of the other website. All
>> developers tools were also moved for the same reason.
>>
>> So, as of today :
>> * PTFS/LibLime has a LLEK software that is not Koha, and you can't
>> download
>> * PTFS/LibLime has a "Harley" release of Koha, that is OpenSource,
>> patches have been submitted, I think 50% of them are now in Koha. But it
>> is not Koha and unless i'm mistaking, it does not evolve (and is based
>> on 3.0.2 version of Koha). The remaining 50% may be included in Koha, or
>> replaced by someone else dev that achieve the same goal.
>> * Koha-community.org has the "uptodate" version of "the community".
>>
>> Hoping I answered you questions.
>>
>> --
>> Paul POULAIN
>> http://www.biblibre.com
>> Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc
>> Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
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