[Koha] Koha demo links on koha.org

[Thomas Dukleth]

Maybe by using LibLime's own naming I have fallen into a marketing trap. 
LEK is however Koha based even if referring to LEK as Koha may lead to
semantic confusion.  OPALS is Koha based at least from an earlier period
and LEK is more recently Koha based which should make integration of LEK
into Koha fairly easy at the present time.

All I am suggesting is not to push LibLime out of the Koha community any
faster than they are taking themselves out.  LibLime obviously wants the
association with the Koha name and that at least should be used as an
inducement for them to participate in the community.

I would like to see what might be done to encourage LEK to actually become
part of Koha by not insisting too strongly that it is entirely alien code.
 Gentle encouragement may not have been working well with LibLime
recently, however, there is some evidence that taking a stern attitude
about some things has only exacerbated problems with the company which
does effectively control the community website.

I have always thought that the English demonstration should have been
hosted on the community website without any subtle advertising.  Failing
to correct the issue in the past has become a small problem for the image
of Koha as free software which is not dependent upon any particular
company.  It would have been much easier to address that issue when Katipo
was controlling the community website but I never made comment.  Fixing
the issue had always meant maintaining a current demonstration system and
at least LibLime had been doing that work when no one else offered.

Yes I think that we should make the issue clear but I do not think we
should press the issue in a manner which is only likely to provoke a
negative reaction.  Until the community is less dependent upon what
LibLime controls, the community should keep better in mind the personal
attitude of those in control.  At the present time, I think that our
prospect of influence is greater by asking for cooperation where it is
more likely to be obtained.


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On Fri, October 9, 2009 03:26, Brendan Gallagher wrote:
>
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Chris Cormack wrote:
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>> * Thomas Dukleth (kohalist at agogme.com) wrote:
>>> I now have a corrected understanding of Nicole's position.  However
>>> much
>>> better it would be to have only community versions of Koha
>>> demonstrations
>>> linked from the community website, I would rather we not advocate
>>> purity
>>> in a manner that LibLime is liable to respond to in the most negative
>>> manner.
>>> At this time, I prefer that we ask LibLime to demote their non-
>>> community
>>> demonstrations as linked from the community website in favour of
>>> community
>>> demonstrations with no subtle advertising.
>
> Thomas - I do question your use of the word non-community
> demonstrations here and community demonstrations (let's call them what
> they are).
>
> There is a vast difference between LEK and Koha and that you should
> label them correctly.
>
> The demos on the koha.org should be of Koha not something else.
>
> -Brendan
>
>>>  I prefer a gentler approach to
>>> LibLime than asking them to eliminate links to their
>>> demonstrations.  In
>>> suggesting this approach, I am hoping that we would be encouraging
>>> LibLime
>>> to act more favourably towards the community which I hope that they
>>> would
>>> reciprocate.
>>>
>>> I am advocating this less than pure approach for the time being to
>>> see if
>>> it may have a favourable effect.
>>
>> I just would like the links to demos to be links to demos of Koha
>> whether they are hosted at Liblime or in Timbuktu I don't really
>> care as
>> long as they are demonstrations of Koha.
>>
>> Chris
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