Koha-Community Site & Press Releases
Now that Koha-Community.org is the official site, I assume this is where I'm supposed to put press releases. Do we want a separate blog for that? or just a separate category? Thanks Nicole
Hi, On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that Koha-Community.org is the official site, I assume this is where I'm supposed to put press releases. Do we want a separate blog for that? or just a separate category?
I think a separate category is sufficient. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton gmcharlt@gmail.com
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that Koha-Community.org is the official site, I assume this is where I'm supposed to put press releases. Do we want a separate blog for that? or just a separate category?
I think a separate category is sufficient.
I agree - just wanted to get at least one other person to agree with me :) Thanks Nicole
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that Koha-Community.org is the official site, I assume this is where I'm supposed to put press releases. Do we want a separate blog for that? or just a separate category?
I think a separate category is sufficient.
I agree - just wanted to get at least one other person to agree with me :)
I agree too.... now you have at least two people on board :-) Chris
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Chris Nighswonger <cnighswonger@foundations.edu> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that Koha-Community.org is the official site, I assume this is where I'm supposed to put press releases. Do we want a separate blog for that? or just a separate category?
I think a separate category is sufficient.
I agree - just wanted to get at least one other person to agree with me :)
I agree too.... now you have at least two people on board :-)
Chris
I do think we need to set a policy that no post on the Koha site be too long - and that everyone use the MORE tag to shorten long posts (which I did with the press release). Nicole
Hi, On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Nicole Engard wrote:
I do think we need to set a policy that no post on the Koha site be too long - and that everyone use the MORE tag to shorten long posts (which I did with the press release).
Use of the more tag should be encouraged, but I don't recommend that we go down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out what constitutes a post that is "too long". I think our policies for koha-community.org should be * short * clear * focused on encouraging broad participation * also, geared towards encouraging people to just jump in and fix formatting problems as they occur rather than trying set too many ground rules up front Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton VP, Data Services Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 352-215-7548 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/
I agree with Galen here: the more tag is helpful in keeping the home page short, but hard and fast rules almost never work out well. Here are my (personal preference) general guidelines for using "more" based on my experiences with sites of all stripes: 1. If it requires a user to take action, describe the action, and reason for action, then put the steps required after the jump (more). Interested parties will click through. 2. If it takes up more than 2/3 of the available "above the fold" area (what is viewable on initial page load) it should probably be split up with "more" 3. Very long items (like newsletters) should use links and anchors, with only the table of contents viewable on the home page, a la the newsletter posts. That's just my preference, and it's very loose. I say, use your best judgement. Best part about WordPress: it's always editable later. :) Liz Rea NEKLS On Mar 3, 2010, at 7:30 AM, Galen Charlton wrote:
Hi,
On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:19 AM, Nicole Engard wrote:
I do think we need to set a policy that no post on the Koha site be too long - and that everyone use the MORE tag to shorten long posts (which I did with the press release).
Use of the more tag should be encouraged, but I don't recommend that we go down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out what constitutes a post that is "too long".
I think our policies for koha-community.org should be
* short * clear * focused on encouraging broad participation * also, geared towards encouraging people to just jump in and fix formatting problems as they occur rather than trying set too many ground rules up front
Regards,
Galen -- Galen Charlton VP, Data Services Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 352-215-7548 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/
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Le 03/03/2010 14:09, Chris Nighswonger a écrit :
I agree - just wanted to get at least one other person to agree with me :)
I agree too.... now you have at least two people on board :-)
that's 3 with me ! -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
Here are my concerns re: Company press releases on koha-community.org. disclaimer: Vendors, I am sympathetic to your plight, don't take it personally. ;) I, personally, would rather keep koha-community.org as vendor agnostic as possible. This includes press releases, hosted demos (would need to change how this currently works), and other vendor specific news. The reason for this is that I don't want legitimate community news to get lost in a sea of "X company signs Y library for support/hosting" type of news. I look to the project website to tell me what I need to know about the status of the project, not explicitly about companies supporting the project (we have a spot for that, under Paid Support). We have seen what happens when a financially interested party takes control of our assets. It's not pretty. I propose the following structure: Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category. Debate: general press about Koha (non-vendor related): Part of the timeline or separate? I'm for part of the timeline, but would like to know what everyone thinks. The headlines of items in the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category will be shown in the sidebar, where the existing "Press" information is currently located. Possibly change the title of that section to "Vendor Press." We will display the last 5 items from "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" categories. List of all press release items will be available by clicking on the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category links. Thoughts? I really want this to be as transparent and collaborative as possible. Whatever we decide, I'll help to make it happen. Liz Rea NEKLS On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:50 AM, Nicole Engard wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Now that Koha-Community.org is the official site, I assume this is where I'm supposed to put press releases. Do we want a separate blog for that? or just a separate category?
I think a separate category is sufficient.
I agree - just wanted to get at least one other person to agree with me :)
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On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Liz Rea <lrea@nekls.org> wrote:
I propose the following structure:
Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
I think this is a good approach. The concern about the home page becoming dominated by vendor press releases (unintentional as that may be) is a valid one and probably inevitable.
Debate: general press about Koha (non-vendor related): Part of the timeline or separate? I'm for part of the timeline, but would like to know what everyone thinks.
Part of the timeline, imho.
The headlines of items in the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category will be shown in the sidebar, where the existing "Press" information is currently located. Possibly change the title of that section to "Vendor Press." We will display the last 5 items from "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" categories.
Agree.
List of all press release items will be available by clicking on the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category links.
Agree again. Kind Regards, Chris
On 4 March 2010 06:48, Liz Rea <lrea@nekls.org> wrote:
Here are my concerns re: Company press releases on koha-community.org.
disclaimer: Vendors, I am sympathetic to your plight, don't take it personally. ;)
I, personally, would rather keep koha-community.org as vendor agnostic as possible. This includes press releases, hosted demos (would need to change how this currently works), and other vendor specific news. The reason for this is that I don't want legitimate community news to get lost in a sea of "X company signs Y library for support/hosting" type of news. I look to the project website to tell me what I need to know about the status of the project, not explicitly about companies supporting the project (we have a spot for that, under Paid Support).
We have seen what happens when a financially interested party takes control of our assets. It's not pretty.
I propose the following structure:
Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category. Debate: general press about Koha (non-vendor related): Part of the timeline or separate? I'm for part of the timeline, but would like to know what everyone thinks.
The headlines of items in the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category will be shown in the sidebar, where the existing "Press" information is currently located. Possibly change the title of that section to "Vendor Press." We will display the last 5 items from "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" categories.
List of all press release items will be available by clicking on the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category links.
Thoughts?
I really want this to be as transparent and collaborative as possible. Whatever we decide, I'll help to make it happen.
Liz Rea
Hi Liz That has my vote, having a way to see press about the project vs press about a vendor seems great. It would be even better if vendors could write 2 different releases, one for their site and the usual PR outlets, with all the marketing and usual PR type language, and one that is project specific for the koha-community.org site. Chris
I concur with this summary of how the press releases should be handled. I understand the vendors plight as well and would like for them to have separate space. But on a number of websites, the real news gets lost in the "We signed a contract" type stuff which is irrelevant to all but those seeking a vendor and the vendors. ************************************** I, personally, would rather keep koha-community.org as vendor agnostic as possible. This includes press releases, hosted demos (would need to change how this currently works), and other vendor specific news. The reason for this is that I don't want legitimate community news to get lost in a sea of "X company signs Y library for support/hosting" type of news. I look to the project website to tell me what I need to know about the status of the project, not explicitly about companies supporting the project (we have a spot for that, under Paid Support). Liz Rea NEKLS Lenora A. Oftedahl StreamNet Regional Librarian Columbia River Inter-Tribal Fish Commission http://www.fishlib.org
"Lenora Oftedahl" <OFTL@critfc.org>
I concur with this summary of how the press releases should be handled. I understand the vendors plight as well and would like for them to have separate space. But on a number of websites, the real news gets lost in the "We signed a contract" type stuff which is irrelevant to all but those seeking a vendor and the vendors.
Personally, I think it should be irrelevant to those seeking a vendor too. If a vendor needs to should that loudly about what contracts they're signing, rather than reporting afterwards in journal articles and so on, then something seems a bit wrong to me. "X signed Y" is not clear news - it might just mean X's sales/negotiators are good. So, my view: let's try to make sure all company press release feeds are on the koha blogs / Yahoo pipe feed and just link all that in a side bar on the koha-community.org site. Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster and LMS developer at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op
Le 05/03/2010 12:11, MJ Ray a écrit :
"Lenora Oftedahl" <OFTL@critfc.org>
I concur with this summary of how the press releases should be handled. I understand the vendors plight as well and would like for them to have separate space. But on a number of websites, the real news gets lost in the "We signed a contract" type stuff which is irrelevant to all but those seeking a vendor and the vendors.
Personally, I think it should be irrelevant to those seeking a vendor too. If a vendor needs to should that loudly about what contracts they're signing, rather than reporting afterwards in journal articles and so on, then something seems a bit wrong to me. "X signed Y" is not clear news - it might just mean X's sales/negotiators are good.
yes and no: I think it's important for someone to know that a french university has choosen Koha and BibLibre. If you're a university, you may find this information usefull. And if you investigate to choose or not koha: important to see it's a project heavily supported by companies. I strongly think companies must be at a second level and all being equally presented, as they are now. But I also strongly think that companies activity is a big + for the project itself. my 2cts -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:24 AM, Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> wrote:
Le 05/03/2010 12:11, MJ Ray a écrit :
Personally, I think it should be irrelevant to those seeking a vendor too. If a vendor needs to should that loudly about what contracts they're signing, rather than reporting afterwards in journal articles and so on, then something seems a bit wrong to me. "X signed Y" is not clear news - it might just mean X's sales/negotiators are good.
yes and no: I think it's important for someone to know that a french university has choosen Koha and BibLibre. If you're a university, you may find this information usefull. And if you investigate to choose or not koha: important to see it's a project heavily supported by companies.
I strongly think companies must be at a second level and all being equally presented, as they are now. But I also strongly think that companies activity is a big + for the project itself.
I agree with Paul +1
Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com>
Le 05/03/2010 12:11, MJ Ray a écrit :
Personally, I think it should be irrelevant to those seeking a vendor too. If a vendor needs to should that loudly about what contracts they're signing, rather than reporting afterwards in journal articles and so on, then something seems a bit wrong to me. "X signed Y" is not clear news - it might just mean X's sales/negotiators are good.
yes and no: I think it's important for someone to know that a french university has choosen Koha and BibLibre. If you're a university, you may find this information usefull.
That's a special case - in my experience, the main reason educational institutions find such information useful is because many of them have anti-competitive restrictions on procurement, such as a requirement that institutions should prefer a system already used by N other similar institutions. Of course, that means that new options can only enter the market in secret or in a flagship project! I acknowledge that such needs do exist, but I say they should not!
And if you investigate to choose or not koha: important to see it's a project heavily supported by companies.
Doesn't http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ and support company own sites do that? I worry that posting overt company points of view directly on the site make it look more like a trade mag and less like a community.
I strongly think companies must be at a second level and all being equally presented, as they are now. But I also strongly think that companies activity is a big + for the project itself.
I disagree. We are not all being equally presented yet; and such articles should be on a company's own sites and only linked from the community site. It should not be a source of free ads for vendors! Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster and LMS developer at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op
I strongly think companies must be at a second level and all being equally presented, as they are now. But I also strongly think that companies activity is a big + for the project itself.
I disagree. We are not all being equally presented yet;
In what way are we not being equally presented yet? I think the vendor news is interesting and useful. I like the fact that a library evaluating Koha and looking for a support company can look at the news and directly contact a library using that company. That gives the customer more freedom and potentially more accurate information over the option of only contacting references provided by the company. -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org
Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org>
I strongly think companies must be at a second level and all being equally presented, as they are now. But I also strongly think that companies activity is a big + for the project itself.
I disagree. We are not all being equally presented yet;
In what way are we not being equally presented yet?
One example is that the paid for support listing is now back to alphabetical, which usually almos no-one wants. Great for Anant and BibLibre - bad for software.coop and Tamil. Thomas Dukleth suggested making the primary listing user-sortable some time ago in http://old.nabble.com/-Koha-announce--Announcing-...-New-koha.org-Website-ba... I know it's possible with Wordpress in several ways (I'm sure it was with Plone too - I just didn't know how). I've taken that up again on IRC and we'll see what comes.
I think the vendor news is interesting and useful. I like the fact that a library evaluating Koha and looking for a support company can look at the news and directly contact a library using that company. That gives the customer more freedom and potentially more accurate information over the option of only contacting references provided by the company.
That's fine, but none of it requires press releases to be reposted on the koha-community site. Also, it's only coming from vendors and vendors usually aren't going to issue a press release saying it's all gone wrong with a client, are they? In fact, I've seen some vendor agreements (non-Koha) specify that clients can't discuss certain things (shall we say challenges?), in public. Either way, I don't think it's a great info source for libraries. Hope that explains, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster and LMS developer at | software www.software.coop http://mjr.towers.org.uk | .... co IMO only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html | .... op
One example is that the paid for support listing is now back to alphabetical, which usually almost no-one wants. Great for Anant and BibLibre - bad for software.coop and Tamil.
No sorting option will be "equal" under this definition. Alphabetical is at least neutral. Should the list be shown in a new random order each time you visit? That seems like it would be confusing.
Also, it's only coming from vendors and vendors usually aren't going to issue a press release saying it's all gone wrong with a client, are they?
No, but if library neither is a vendor going to offer as a reference a library which was unhappy with their services. At least with an archive of press releases libraries can see what agreements have been made in the past. -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org
On 6 March 2010 06:35, Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> wrote:
One example is that the paid for support listing is now back to alphabetical, which usually almost no-one wants. Great for Anant and BibLibre - bad for software.coop and Tamil.
No sorting option will be "equal" under this definition. Alphabetical is at least neutral. Should the list be shown in a new random order each time you visit? That seems like it would be confusing.
Also, it's only coming from vendors and vendors usually aren't going to issue a press release saying it's all gone wrong with a client, are they?
No, but if library neither is a vendor going to offer as a reference a library which was unhappy with their services. At least with an archive of press releases libraries can see what agreements have been made in the past.
You know whats neat about all this discussion? We can actually change things on the site. So big ups to NEKLS for hosting and for LIz for setting it all up and making changes. I really don't care what order the companies are, alphabetical is easy, thats why I did them that way when I shifted from the old site. All I want is to provide no judgement at all, if people are worried that coming first alphabetically somehow is saying this company is better than another then lets change the order. Personally I think if a client picks the first company out of a list just because it's first ... you probably don't want them as a client anyway. Someone has to be first someone has to be last, whatever order we choose as the default should be consistent so people can spot new entries. Chris
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
I really don't care what order the companies are, alphabetical is easy, thats why I did them that way when I shifted from the old site. All I want is to provide no judgement at all, if people are worried that coming first alphabetically somehow is saying this company is better than another then lets change the order. Personally I think if a client picks the first company out of a list just because it's first ... you probably don't want them as a client anyway. Someone has to be first someone has to be last, whatever order we choose as the default should be consistent so people can spot new entries.
There is a company directory plugin for WordPress that we can use - but I don't see anything in the documentation about being able to have several sort options ... Just an idea. Thanks Nicole
I am currently investigating this plugin (actually was looking at it before you sent this :)), and MJ Ray is looking at adding the sort functionality we are looking for. It looks VERY promising. Liz Rea NEKLS On Mar 5, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Nicole Engard wrote:
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
I really don't care what order the companies are, alphabetical is easy, thats why I did them that way when I shifted from the old site. All I want is to provide no judgement at all, if people are worried that coming first alphabetically somehow is saying this company is better than another then lets change the order. Personally I think if a client picks the first company out of a list just because it's first ... you probably don't want them as a client anyway. Someone has to be first someone has to be last, whatever order we choose as the default should be consistent so people can spot new entries.
There is a company directory plugin for WordPress that we can use - but I don't see anything in the documentation about being able to have several sort options ... Just an idea.
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I have created a RSS feed on Library Technology Guides for Koha related press announcements: http://www.librarytechnology.org/rss/koha.pl Any press releases submitted to Library Technology Guides related to Koha will be included on the feed. Feel free to make use of it if you find it helpful. -marshall Marshall Breeding Director for Innovative Technology and Research Vanderbilt University Library Editor, Library Technology Guides http://www.librarytechnology.org 615-343-6094 -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Owen Leonard Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:09 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Koha-Community Site & Press Releases
I strongly think companies must be at a second level and all being equally presented, as they are now. But I also strongly think that companies activity is a big + for the project itself.
I disagree. We are not all being equally presented yet;
In what way are we not being equally presented yet? I think the vendor news is interesting and useful. I like the fact that a library evaluating Koha and looking for a support company can look at the news and directly contact a library using that company. That gives the customer more freedom and potentially more accurate information over the option of only contacting references provided by the company. -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi, On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Liz Rea wrote:
Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
+1
Debate: general press about Koha (non-vendor related): Part of the timeline or separate? I'm for part of the timeline, but would like to know what everyone thinks.
Part of the timeline.
The headlines of items in the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category will be shown in the sidebar, where the existing "Press" information is currently located. Possibly change the title of that section to "Vendor Press." We will display the last 5 items from "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" categories.
+1, but I would also like to request that a category RSS feed for press releases be enabled..
List of all press release items will be available by clicking on the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category links.
+1
I really want this to be as transparent and collaborative as possible. Whatever we decide, I'll help to make it happen.
+1,000,000 Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton VP, Data Services Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 352-215-7548 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/
Hi, On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Liz Rea wrote:
Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
I'd prefer that it be called "Press Release". The Koha project as a whole is not likely to be issuing press releases absent an extraordinary circumstance where community consensus is talked about (and talked about) and obtained; in cases where somebody like HLT issues a press release concerning an aspect of the Koha project, I say that they should do such a release as both a press release and a top-level post. Regards, Galen -- Galen Charlton VP, Data Services Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 352-215-7548 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/
Feel free to move the press I put up - even as a vendor this is what I thought made the most sense originally - to not have it on the main koha news page. Nicole On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Galen Charlton <gmc@esilibrary.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Liz Rea wrote:
Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
I'd prefer that it be called "Press Release". The Koha project as a whole is not likely to be issuing press releases absent an extraordinary circumstance where community consensus is talked about (and talked about) and obtained; in cases where somebody like HLT issues a press release concerning an aspect of the Koha project, I say that they should do such a release as both a press release and a top-level post.
Regards,
Galen -- Galen Charlton VP, Data Services Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 352-215-7548 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/
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I agree with the general thread of this discussion. However, I prefer "Vendor Press." Make it really clear that it is coming from a vendor. Vicki On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Galen Charlton <gmc@esilibrary.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Mar 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Liz Rea wrote:
Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
I'd prefer that it be called "Press Release". The Koha project as a whole is not likely to be issuing press releases absent an extraordinary circumstance where community consensus is talked about (and talked about) and obtained; in cases where somebody like HLT issues a press release concerning an aspect of the Koha project, I say that they should do such a release as both a press release and a top-level post.
Regards,
Galen -- Galen Charlton VP, Data Services Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source email: gmc@esilibrary.com direct: +1 352-215-7548 skype: gmcharlt web: http://www.esilibrary.com/
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Le 03/03/2010 18:48, Liz Rea a écrit :
disclaimer: Vendors, I am sympathetic to your plight, don't take it personally. ;)
:D
I, personally, would rather keep koha-community.org as vendor agnostic as possible. +1000 This includes press releases, +1000 hosted demos (would need to change how this currently works), demo.koha-community.org sounds fine (for frenchies, it's already demo.koha-fr.org, - and there is no demo.biblibre.com - ) Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
sounds we could have "koha news" (including release, that should be widely spread to advertise the vitality of the project) and "vendor news" (including PRs). the general idea being to have "vendor centric" different from "project centric"
Debate: general press about Koha (non-vendor related): Part of the timeline or separate? I'm for part of the timeline
+1
The headlines of items in the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category will be shown in the sidebar, where the existing "Press" information is currently located. Possibly change the title of that section to "Vendor Press." We will display the last 5 items from "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" categories.
I would say completly separate both (so 5 items for "koha news" and 5 items below for "vendor press")
List of all press release items will be available by clicking on the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category links.
+1 and maybe we could syndiccate external RSS feeds (like "vendor planet" and "koha planet"). -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
Please take a look at the koha-community.org website, these changes have been implemented as originally described (with a couple of verbiage changes). Or see this screenshot: http://screencast.com/t/OTFkOWMx Thank you all for the good advice, I like the way it looks now (and I feel happy about the general agnostic-ness of the site. Win all around. :)) Liz Rea NEKLS On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Paul Poulain wrote:
Le 03/03/2010 18:48, Liz Rea a écrit :
disclaimer: Vendors, I am sympathetic to your plight, don't take it personally. ;)
:D
I, personally, would rather keep koha-community.org as vendor agnostic as possible. +1000 This includes press releases, +1000 hosted demos (would need to change how this currently works), demo.koha-community.org sounds fine (for frenchies, it's already demo.koha-fr.org, - and there is no demo.biblibre.com - ) Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
sounds we could have "koha news" (including release, that should be widely spread to advertise the vitality of the project) and "vendor news" (including PRs). the general idea being to have "vendor centric" different from "project centric"
Debate: general press about Koha (non-vendor related): Part of the timeline or separate? I'm for part of the timeline
+1
The headlines of items in the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category will be shown in the sidebar, where the existing "Press" information is currently located. Possibly change the title of that section to "Vendor Press." We will display the last 5 items from "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" categories.
I would say completly separate both (so 5 items for "koha news" and 5 items below for "vendor press")
List of all press release items will be available by clicking on the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category links.
+1 and maybe we could syndiccate external RSS feeds (like "vendor planet" and "koha planet").
-- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
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Also, Support Company Press can be accessed through RSS at the following feed (WP is so awesome, it does this automagically): http://koha-community.org/category/koha-news/press-releases/feed/ So that could be put into the "Koha Support Company Planet" feed. :) Liz On Mar 4, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Liz Rea wrote:
Please take a look at the koha-community.org website, these changes have been implemented as originally described (with a couple of verbiage changes).
Or see this screenshot: http://screencast.com/t/OTFkOWMx
Thank you all for the good advice, I like the way it looks now (and I feel happy about the general agnostic-ness of the site. Win all around. :))
Liz Rea NEKLS
On Mar 4, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Paul Poulain wrote:
Le 03/03/2010 18:48, Liz Rea a écrit :
disclaimer: Vendors, I am sympathetic to your plight, don't take it personally. ;)
:D
I, personally, would rather keep koha-community.org as vendor agnostic as possible. +1000 This includes press releases, +1000 hosted demos (would need to change how this currently works), demo.koha-community.org sounds fine (for frenchies, it's already demo.koha-fr.org, - and there is no demo.biblibre.com - ) Press releases are not part of the general timeline of the home page. All Press releases should be in a "press release" or "Vendor Press" category.
sounds we could have "koha news" (including release, that should be widely spread to advertise the vitality of the project) and "vendor news" (including PRs). the general idea being to have "vendor centric" different from "project centric"
Debate: general press about Koha (non-vendor related): Part of the timeline or separate? I'm for part of the timeline
+1
The headlines of items in the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category will be shown in the sidebar, where the existing "Press" information is currently located. Possibly change the title of that section to "Vendor Press." We will display the last 5 items from "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" categories.
I would say completly separate both (so 5 items for "koha news" and 5 items below for "vendor press")
List of all press release items will be available by clicking on the "Press Release" or "Vendor Press" category links.
+1 and maybe we could syndiccate external RSS feeds (like "vendor planet" and "koha planet").
-- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
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On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Liz Rea <lrea@nekls.org> wrote:
Please take a look at the koha-community.org website, these changes have been implemented as originally described (with a couple of verbiage changes).
Or see this screenshot: http://screencast.com/t/OTFkOWMx
Thank you all for the good advice, I like the way it looks now (and I feel happy about the general agnostic-ness of the site. Win all around. :))
Very nice! Kind Regards, Chris
Agnostic and inclusive. I like "support company" better than vendor too. Nice job.
Thank you all for the good advice, I like the way it looks now (and I feel happy about the general agnostic-ness of the site. Win all around. :))
Very nice!
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Le 04/03/2010 19:34, Liz Rea a écrit :
Please take a look at the koha-community.org website, these changes have been implemented as originally described (with a couple of verbiage changes).
Or see this screenshot: http://screencast.com/t/OTFkOWMx
Thank you all for the good advice, I like the way it looks now (and I feel happy about the general agnostic-ness of the site. Win all around. :))
mmm... just a suggestion : could the "support company press" be a little bit closer to "support company news"? Something like : ================================================== Support Company News [all company press] * ByWater Solutions Celebrates One Year of Providing Open Source Services to Libraries * Acton Public Library Partners with ByWater Solutions for Koha Implementation ================================================== [all company press] being the new thing, moved from bottom Other suggestion : having a "site news" before the company news. As of today, the "site news" is quite hidden on the bottom/right of the screen. 3 possibilities : 1 - have news displayed on the home page. The home page would have 2 parts : the "static" part (Home of the Koha) and the "news" one 2 - have news on a specific menu on top : [about] [news] [About] [documentation]... 3 - have news on a box on the right just before Support company news I like the idea of 2 AND 3 at the same time. 2 side notes : - ++++ for the "Event calendar". We should use it heavily ! - could the width of the page (white part) follow the screen size ? I've a wide 22" screen, and a lot of place is lost on left& right. Having, say 10% on left & 10% on right should be OK/enough. -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08
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