It is an institutional identifier for bibliographic environment and indicates that the bibliographic record belongs to your library. I think it is an optional field,because a nmber of libraries do not use this field. - Selma -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 6/8/18, Hira Akram <hira.akram@almusnet.com> wrote: Subject: RE: [Koha] Field 003 of Marc21 To: "Selma Aslan" <selmaslan@yahoo.co.uk>, "bob@calyx.net.au" <bob@calyx.net.au> Cc: "koha@lists.katipo.co.nz" <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Date: Monday, 6 August, 2018, 15:17 #yiv5721965148 #yiv5721965148 -- _filtered #yiv5721965148 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv5721965148 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} #yiv5721965148 #yiv5721965148 p.yiv5721965148MsoNormal, #yiv5721965148 li.yiv5721965148MsoNormal, #yiv5721965148 div.yiv5721965148MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv5721965148 a:link, #yiv5721965148 span.yiv5721965148MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv5721965148 a:visited, #yiv5721965148 span.yiv5721965148MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:#954F72;text-decoration:underline;} #yiv5721965148 .yiv5721965148MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv5721965148 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv5721965148 div.yiv5721965148WordSection1 {} #yiv5721965148 Hi Selma, Thank you. Can you please also explain me about these codes? Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Selma Aslan Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 5:08 PM To: bob@calyx.net.au; Hira Akram Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Field 003 of Marc21 Hi Hira, Have you checked http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/ If there is not an agency in your country you can mailto:ndmso@loc.gov and ask for a code.(http://www.loc.gov/marc/organizations/#requests) Best Selma--------------------------------------------On Mon, 6/8/18, Hira Akram <hira.akram@almusnet.com> wrote: Subject: [Koha] Field 003 of Marc21 To: "bob@calyx.net.au" <bob@calyx.net.au> Cc: "koha@lists.katipo.co.nz" <koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Date: Monday, 6 August, 2018, 14:22 Hi All, Can you please tell me what is filled in field 003 of MARC21 format? I have searched this on internet and this is what I found : MARC code for the organization whose control number is contained in field 001. I am unable to understand this. Can anyone help. Thanks _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this, but if you're in a small library, a lot of this doesn't matter as much as one might think. The library where I work has maybe 5000 books--I have more books at home.* If your library users can find the books on the shelves, it doesn't matter that the 060b field (NLM classification system, Cutter number) isn't perfect, or the 082 (Dewey) number doesn't go to all thirty five decimals. My general rule of thumb: if you're part of the cataloging department, you need to be fairly careful. If you ARE the cataloging department (and the systems department, and half the reference department, and...), you can let a few things slide. *And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha. Fred King Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6670 ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279 MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. --Terry Pratchett
On 2018-08-06 09:26 AM, King, Fred wrote:
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this
IT technicians (and lawyers) might also turn pale. The combination of 001 and 003 should be unique, and show the origin (certainly as a courtesy, if not as the responsibility and the possible copyright of a z39-50 download) of what you are using in your library db. "Your library" might be big, small, at home, whatever; but if you make your records available to the public, surely some level of accountability is desirable. MARC21 (and other flavours used by Koha) have been developed over many years from tradition, some common sense, some technicalities, probably many more considerations by tens of thousands of quite smart librarians, archivists and end-users. Koha makes this available at a fairly painless level.
*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha. Then please use Koha as a recognizable library catalogue rather than a glorified spreadsheet. But YMMV.
Best -- Paul
I should clarify: I wouldn't strip out the 001 or 003 from a record--I was referring mostly to call numbers, possibly physical description, maybe subject headings--things you need to add to a record. I do very little original cataloging; most of my records I download from OCLC. A lot of the NLM call numbers are either incomplete or missing entirely. For those, I go to the NLM classification site (https://www.nlm.nih.gov/class//) and try to come as close as I can. For the Cutter number, I look in my Cutter-Sanborn Three-Figure Author book or to http://www.unforbi.com.ar/cutteren/. For the handful of books for which I create an entire record, well, I do the best I can. I used to worry about getting it exactly right, but now I figure that if it's off a bit, it doesn't matter.
*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha. Then please use Koha as a recognizable library catalogue rather than a glorified spreadsheet. But YMMV.
But of course. That's why I haven't done it yet--I want to get it right. :-) And we're still unpacking from the move. Fred King Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6670 ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279 MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. --Terry Pratchett -----Original Message----- From: Koha [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Paul A Sent: Monday, August 06, 2018 10:25 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Field 003 of Marc21 ** ATTENTION: This email originated from outside of the MedStar network.** DO NOT CLICK links or attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. On 2018-08-06 09:26 AM, King, Fred wrote:
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this
IT technicians (and lawyers) might also turn pale. The combination of 001 and 003 should be unique, and show the origin (certainly as a courtesy, if not as the responsibility and the possible copyright of a z39-50 download) of what you are using in your library db. "Your library" might be big, small, at home, whatever; but if you make your records available to the public, surely some level of accountability is desirable. MARC21 (and other flavours used by Koha) have been developed over many years from tradition, some common sense, some technicalities, probably many more considerations by tens of thousands of quite smart librarians, archivists and end-users. Koha makes this available at a fairly painless level.
*And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha. Then please use Koha as a recognizable library catalogue rather than a glorified spreadsheet. But YMMV.
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On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 9:26 AM, King, Fred <Fred.King@medstar.net> wrote:
Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this, but if you're in a small library, a lot of this doesn't matter as much as one might think.
Agreed. Clone the default bibliographic framework and customize it to fit your needs. -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org
Hi, Where are you saving your author cutter? Because I am trying to save author cutter and print it on spine label. But I am not sure where to save it. I found on internet that Cutter-Sanborn Three-Figure Author Table may conform to Library of Congress item number practice so I am saving it in 050$b. but I am unable to print it in spine label. Which name should I use in spine label preferences to print it there?? Also, I want to print year in spine label which is saved in 260$c and I am using <year> in spine label system preference but it is not getting printed there. What should I do to print them?? From: King, Fred Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 6:26 PM To: Hira Akram Cc: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: RE: [Koha] Field 003 of Marc21 Real catalogers are going to turn pale and have to sit down when they read this, but if you're in a small library, a lot of this doesn't matter as much as one might think. The library where I work has maybe 5000 books--I have more books at home.* If your library users can find the books on the shelves, it doesn't matter that the 060b field (NLM classification system, Cutter number) isn't perfect, or the 082 (Dewey) number doesn't go to all thirty five decimals. My general rule of thumb: if you're part of the cataloging department, you need to be fairly careful. If you ARE the cataloging department (and the systems department, and half the reference department, and...), you can let a few things slide. *And yes, someday I'm going to move the catalog from the MS Access 97 database to Koha. Fred King Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6670 ORCID 0000-0001-5266-0279 MedStar Authors Catalog: http://medstarauthors.org I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. --Terry Pratchett
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