On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Kurt Bodling <kbodling@mountvernon.org> wrote:

As a librarian, I like being able to check the MARC coding of a record (mine or that in other libraries).

Is the "raw" MARC view the one you prefer for this? As opposed to this one? http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionu...

But, also as a librarian, I would like to make this go away so that fields I code as "hidden" are completely hidden, even from the prying eyes of other librarians.

The above view (opac-MARCdetail.pl) respects the visibility settings you can configure in your MARC framework. So if you edit a tag's subfield structure and set the "hidden" value so that it does not display in the OPAC, it won't. However, these rules are not respected by the "raw" modal MARC view.

Too improve usability, it would be good if I could cut and paste from that view. The expanded MARC view doesn't supply the tags necessary to, um, 'borrow' other people's cataloging work.

If you're trying to borrow from a Koha library, why not use the "Save record" option? -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org

Salvete! Have I mentioned how much I love our developers lately? *looks at floor* I've butchered this to the point that it's a little hard to tell Jesse from Owen, but uh, ye're both bril. I figured I might as well open the can of worms since nothing has ever really stopped me before, and indeed y'all kind of encourage me from time to time.

Is the "raw" MARC view the one you prefer for this? As opposed to this one?

http://catalog.bywatersolutions.com/cgi-bin/koha/opac-MARCdetail.pl?biblionu...

I'd love to see something closer to LOC in terms of field clutter. (And no, I can't believe I just wrote that either.) http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v4=16&ti=1,16&SEQ=20100806153146&Search%5FArg=Lord%20of%20the%20Rings&Search%5FCode=GKEY%5E%2A&CNT=100&PID=lYVn89nUP7EIe2Wxje237BFCo&SID=1 However, I like the intent and little reminder of what the fields actually are that Koha sticks in bold type. I think it would be really neat to have the bold type in LOC's catalogue incorporate a rollover that bleeps the field information. (So when I put the cursor on 020 the rollover box would be all like "Yo! This is where you put the INTERNATIONAL STANDARD BOOK NUMBER") And if y'all were extra special bored, it would be neat to make an auto mail for suggest a subject heading or whatnot with some sort of spam filtre. But that is of course in the catalogue of mah dreams.

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Too improve usability, it would be good if I could cut and paste from that view. The expanded MARC view doesn't supply the tags necessary to, um, 'borrow' other people's cataloging work.

++ There are definitely times we want to swipe given fields but not an entire record.

If you're trying to borrow from a Koha library, why not use the "Save record" option?

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The cataloger at my library uses raw MARC views a lot because of the textual MARC editor we use. Obviously, this won't apply to every library (though I'm

More steps. (Save record, click save, wait for the download, find wherever in God's name Firefox put the file, go to the koha import tool, import it, click import, import the staged import, wait for zebra to reindex, click on the record, click edit). As far as I know, this is... tedious. I could be wrong, but I think this method involves a fair number of clicks. Someone (Paul? HDL? Chris? mebbe even Josh whoever Someone is thanks!) made this feature happen over my lunch break at some point, and I was like "Omigosh!" Though I agree that making Koha play nice with other Koha catalogues would be hawt. (All other catalogues of course would be dreaming, but I'm a boring person and can hang on to such dreams.) trying to get this out into the world), but raw MARC views make a lot of copy cataloging easier.

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*nod* I still think that the developers need to round us up using pointy sticks at some Conference or another and make us Librarians make sense in terms of cataloguing interfaces. We're criminal in terms of saying "This sucks fix it." but most of us don't provide meaningful feedback into how y'all could if you felt like it and had big bags of money to help you do it. Cheers, Brooke

Like Joy, I use the OPAC MARC interface quite a lot, since it enables me to see the entire record at once, and I often crib from other libraries. I also use the OPAC MARC interface for training interns and during tours of the library we give to librarian groups. We would certainly miss the MARC view feature. Regards, Jared On 8/6/2010 10:21 AM, Banks, Joy M wrote:

Owen asked if anyone uses the "MARC view" in the OPAC.

As a cataloger, I use this on a semi-frequent basis when I get sick of all the tabs to view a MARC record in the staff client. On a related note (and a reason why to keep this public), I often view other library's MARC records to compare something or other. You're right, though: I don't think many typical users would ever view the MARC record.

~Joy

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