http://wiki.lib.sun.ac.za/index.php/Koha Hi All I have creates a new wiki page, called Koha not KOHA And I have noted the packages installation method. Now you can "flame on" me. I had to try both methods to determine the best support option. Cheers hg
I have creates a new wiki page, called Koha not KOHA
Koha already has a community wiki with installation instructions. If you think any particular set of instructions is inaccurate perhaps you'd like to start a discussion on those points? http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Main_Page -- Owen -- Web Developer Athens County Public Libraries http://www.myacpl.org
Greetings,
I had to try both methods to determine the best support option.
Okay, I can understand installing the wrong way to see why it is the wrong way. Though, sharing your experiments is probably more confusion than help for the masses. As Owen Leonard pointed out, using and contributing to documentation on the Koha wiki is far more useful than writing your own.
Now you can "flame on" me.
Well, since you invited feedback.
I have creates a new wiki page, called Koha not KOHA
But you still have KOHA on the page.
And I have noted the packages installation method.
And you got it wrong, because if you read: http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Everyone (scroll down to the second line of the second box) "sudo apt-get install koha-common" is the recommended command. Instead you have the unrecommended way, as noted by the last sentence of the same section in italics just above http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Quick_Start "It is not recommend that you use this package [referring to koha instead of koha-common] yet." There are other problems, but I just chose to highlight one, so that you can realize why linking to official documentation and the supplementary documentation you referenced to set up other things is much better than writing your own documentation and getting any details wrong. I would recommend writing your instructions like: Install Ubuntu (link to installing ubuntu), Install LAMP server (link to installing LAMP server), Install Mail Transfer Agent (link to installing MTA), Install Koha (link to installing koha). Your instructions will "auto-update", because the links aren't likely to break and they will be kept current by someone more familiar with that part of the process. Every time there is a release, check your instructions. And if something breaks in a given part, ask the community for that part for updated instructions. This keeps your instructions always current, rather than having another frozen in time copy of archaic instructions out on the internet serving as a source of confusion. GPML, Mark Tompsett
When I did "koha" install it pulled in "koha-common" as a dependency. As the note says it is confusing. I agree with your simplifying the wiki page. It is what I expected when I first viewed the Koha wiki. For example, see: https://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/081InstallationUbuntu as good example of an Ubuntu only install guide. Our webinar server is here: http://tex.sun.ac.za Cheers hg On 26 August 2013 17:22, Mark Tompsett <mtompset@hotmail.com> wrote:
Greetings,
I had to try both methods to determine the best support option.
Okay, I can understand installing the wrong way to see why it is the wrong way. Though, sharing your experiments is probably more confusion than help for the masses. As Owen Leonard pointed out, using and contributing to documentation on the Koha wiki is far more useful than writing your own.
Now you can "flame on" me.
Well, since you invited feedback.
I have creates a new wiki page, called Koha not KOHA
But you still have KOHA on the page.
And I have noted the packages installation method.
And you got it wrong, because if you read: http://wiki.koha-community.**org/wiki/Debian#Everyone<http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Everyone> (scroll down to the second line of the second box) "sudo apt-get install koha-common" is the recommended command.
Instead you have the unrecommended way, as noted by the last sentence of the same section in italics just above http://wiki.koha-community.** org/wiki/Debian#Quick_Start<http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Quick_Start> "It is not recommend that you use this package [referring to koha instead of koha-common] yet."
There are other problems, but I just chose to highlight one, so that you can realize why linking to official documentation and the supplementary documentation you referenced to set up other things is much better than writing your own documentation and getting any details wrong.
I would recommend writing your instructions like: Install Ubuntu (link to installing ubuntu), Install LAMP server (link to installing LAMP server), Install Mail Transfer Agent (link to installing MTA), Install Koha (link to installing koha). Your instructions will "auto-update", because the links aren't likely to break and they will be kept current by someone more familiar with that part of the process. Every time there is a release, check your instructions. And if something breaks in a given part, ask the community for that part for updated instructions. This keeps your instructions always current, rather than having another frozen in time copy of archaic instructions out on the internet serving as a source of confusion.
GPML, Mark Tompsett
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On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson@gmail.com>wrote:
http://wiki.lib.uns.ca.az/index.php/Koha<http://wiki.lib.sun.ac.za/index.php/Koha>
^^^^ Stop this SEO trick. Contribute to the community's wiki instead of pretending we do quality control on yours. To+
What SEO trick? On 26 August 2013 17:30, Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson@gmail.com>wrote:
http://wiki.lib.uns.ca.az/index.php/Koha<http://wiki.lib.sun.ac.za/index.php/Koha>
^^^^ Stop this SEO trick.
Contribute to the community's wiki instead of pretending we do quality control on yours.
To+
-- *Hilton Gibson* Ubuntu Linux Systems Administrator JS Gericke Library Room 1025D Stellenbosch University Private Bag X5036 Stellenbosch 7599 South Africa Tel: +27 21 808 4100 | Cell: +27 84 646 4758 http://library.sun.ac.za http://za.linkedin.com/in/hiltongibson http://staff.lib.sun.ac.za/~hgibson/docs/cv/cv.html
On 26 August 2013 16:21, Hilton Gibson <hilton.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi All
I have creates a new wiki page, called Koha not KOHA
Sorry for nit-picking, but page still says "KOHA Community Edition". Two problems with that: 1. is obvious by now, i hope 2. there is no such thing as a "Community Edition" of Koha. There is Koha and it lives at http://koha-community.org/. There might be old and new forks floating around, and they might use the same name as the official version, but that does not make the official verson the "Community Edition". And just to add to the choir: contributing to the official documentation and wiki is a lot better than creating yet another set of slightly inaccurate install instructions that the Community can not correct or help keep up to date. Have fun! Magnus
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