I wonder if the following can be set up so that: *Category of Borrowers* *Loan Quota* *Book* *AV* Students 6 items Loan Period # of renewal Loan Period # of renewal 14 days 2 times 7 days 2 times So that a student can only borrow up to 6 items like 6 Books, or 6 AV, or 3 Books & 3 AV BUT NOT 6 Books & 6 AV Items. Thanks & regards, *Peter Lau* Librarian Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320 [image: https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wiYZQsqhNTJZjyNbLJx-6ODZyoYE5NNu&revid=0BzpPRj4UE0XeT1R2WUt2dnhmTFBBeEpVR3dqcU5QbnF6NVg4PQ] *YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk 2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen *YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong*
Hi Peter If you look at the top of the Circulation and Fine Rules page there is a rule priority order listed: """ The rules are applied from most specific to less specific, using the first found in this order: same library, same user category, same item type same library, same user category, all item types same library, all user categories, same item type same library, all user categories, all item types default (all libraries), same user category, same item type default (all libraries), same user category, all item types default (all libraries), all user categories, same item type default (all libraries), all user categories, all item types """ So if you wanted to restrict loans for a particular user category to 6 (regardless of item type) this should be possible (just set item type to "All" for that rule). Just make sure you don't have any rules higher up that might lead the system to ignore this. With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team Carlos Lopez Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Peter Lau Sent: Friday, 26 April 2019 7:10 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha loan table I wonder if the following can be set up so that: *Category of Borrowers* *Loan Quota* *Book* *AV* Students 6 items Loan Period # of renewal Loan Period # of renewal 14 days 2 times 7 days 2 times So that a student can only borrow up to 6 items like 6 Books, or 6 AV, or 3 Books & 3 AV BUT NOT 6 Books & 6 AV Items. Thanks & regards, *Peter Lau* Librarian Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320 [image: https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wiYZQsqhNTJZjyNbLJx-6ODZyoYE5NNu&revid=0BzpPRj4UE0XeT1R2WUt2dnhmTFBBeEpVR3dqcU5QbnF6NVg4PQ] *YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk 2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen *YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong* _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg Click here to report this message as spam: https://console.mailguard.com.au/ras/1VAb0dyrJy/6PrUvcShthZbQV1IqNt1nq/0.4
Peter, If you look below the table of circulation rules you'll see a rule-set called "Default checkout, hold policy by patron category" where can specify the maximum number of loans that a patron of a given category can make, regardless of the item type. Does that help? Chris Brown On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 11:40 PM Carlos Lopez <clopez@dml.vic.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Peter
If you look at the top of the Circulation and Fine Rules page there is a rule priority order listed:
""" The rules are applied from most specific to less specific, using the first found in this order:
same library, same user category, same item type same library, same user category, all item types same library, all user categories, same item type same library, all user categories, all item types default (all libraries), same user category, same item type default (all libraries), same user category, all item types default (all libraries), all user categories, same item type default (all libraries), all user categories, all item types """ So if you wanted to restrict loans for a particular user category to 6 (regardless of item type) this should be possible (just set item type to "All" for that rule). Just make sure you don't have any rules higher up that might lead the system to ignore this.
With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team
Carlos Lopez
Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au
-----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Peter Lau Sent: Friday, 26 April 2019 7:10 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha loan table
I wonder if the following can be set up so that:
*Category of Borrowers*
*Loan Quota*
*Book*
*AV*
Students
6 items
Loan Period
# of renewal
Loan Period
# of renewal
14 days
2 times
7 days
2 times
So that a student can only borrow up to 6 items like 6 Books, or 6 AV, or 3 Books & 3 AV BUT NOT 6 Books & 6 AV Items.
Thanks & regards,
*Peter Lau*
Librarian
Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320
[image:
*YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk
2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen
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Dear Chris, I’m afraid that it doesn’t help as we only want students to be allowed to borrow a total of 6 types of Type A and/or Type B with the possibilities: Case Max. Type A Max. Type B Max. Type A + Type B 1 6 0 6 2 5 1 6 3 4 2 6 4 3 3 6 5 2 4 6 6 1 5 6 7 0 6 6 Thanks & regards, *Peter Lau* Librarian Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320 [image: https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wiYZQsqhNTJZjyNbLJx-6ODZyoYE5NNu&revid=0BzpPRj4UE0XeT1R2WUt2dnhmTFBBeEpVR3dqcU5QbnF6NVg4PQ] *YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk 2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen *YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong* *From:* Chris Brown [mailto:chris@stayawake.co.uk] *Sent:* Monday, 29 April 2019 1:59 PM *To:* Carlos Lopez <clopez@dml.vic.edu.au> *Cc:* Peter Lau <peter.lau@yccece.edu.hk>; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz *Subject:* Re: [Koha] Koha loan table Peter, If you look below the table of circulation rules you'll see a rule-set called "Default checkout, hold policy by patron category" where can specify the maximum number of loans that a patron of a given category can make, regardless of the item type. Does that help? Chris Brown On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 11:40 PM Carlos Lopez <clopez@dml.vic.edu.au> wrote: Hi Peter If you look at the top of the Circulation and Fine Rules page there is a rule priority order listed: """ The rules are applied from most specific to less specific, using the first found in this order: same library, same user category, same item type same library, same user category, all item types same library, all user categories, same item type same library, all user categories, all item types default (all libraries), same user category, same item type default (all libraries), same user category, all item types default (all libraries), all user categories, same item type default (all libraries), all user categories, all item types """ So if you wanted to restrict loans for a particular user category to 6 (regardless of item type) this should be possible (just set item type to "All" for that rule). Just make sure you don't have any rules higher up that might lead the system to ignore this. With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team Carlos Lopez Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Peter Lau Sent: Friday, 26 April 2019 7:10 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha loan table I wonder if the following can be set up so that: *Category of Borrowers* *Loan Quota* *Book* *AV* Students 6 items Loan Period # of renewal Loan Period # of renewal 14 days 2 times 7 days 2 times So that a student can only borrow up to 6 items like 6 Books, or 6 AV, or 3 Books & 3 AV BUT NOT 6 Books & 6 AV Items. Thanks & regards, *Peter Lau* Librarian Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320 [image: https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wiYZQsqhNTJZjyNbLJx-6ODZyoYE5NNu&revid=0BzpPRj4UE0XeT1R2WUt2dnhmTFBBeEpVR3dqcU5QbnF6NVg4PQ ] *YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk 2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen *YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong* _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg Click here to report this message as spam: https://console.mailguard.com.au/ras/1VAb0dyrJy/6PrUvcShthZbQV1IqNt1nq/0.4 _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Hi Peter, this is currently not possible. You can give a total per patron category/itemtype combination and a total per account. This development might help in the future: *Bug 21946* <https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21946> - Group circulation by item type Katrin On 29.04.19 08:24, Peter Lau wrote:
Dear Chris,
I’m afraid that it doesn’t help as we only want students to be allowed to borrow a total of 6 types of Type A and/or Type B with the possibilities:
Case
Max. Type A
Max. Type B
Max. Type A + Type B
1
6
0
6
2
5
1
6
3
4
2
6
4
3
3
6
5
2
4
6
6
1
5
6
7
0
6
6
Thanks & regards,
*Peter Lau*
Librarian
Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320
*YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk
2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen
*YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong*
*From:* Chris Brown [mailto:chris@stayawake.co.uk] *Sent:* Monday, 29 April 2019 1:59 PM *To:* Carlos Lopez <clopez@dml.vic.edu.au> *Cc:* Peter Lau <peter.lau@yccece.edu.hk>; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz *Subject:* Re: [Koha] Koha loan table
Peter,
If you look below the table of circulation rules you'll see a rule-set called "Default checkout, hold policy by patron category" where can specify the maximum number of loans that a patron of a given category can make, regardless of the item type. Does that help?
Chris Brown
On Sun, Apr 28, 2019 at 11:40 PM Carlos Lopez <clopez@dml.vic.edu.au> wrote:
Hi Peter
If you look at the top of the Circulation and Fine Rules page there is a rule priority order listed:
""" The rules are applied from most specific to less specific, using the first found in this order:
same library, same user category, same item type same library, same user category, all item types same library, all user categories, same item type same library, all user categories, all item types default (all libraries), same user category, same item type default (all libraries), same user category, all item types default (all libraries), all user categories, same item type default (all libraries), all user categories, all item types """ So if you wanted to restrict loans for a particular user category to 6 (regardless of item type) this should be possible (just set item type to "All" for that rule). Just make sure you don't have any rules higher up that might lead the system to ignore this.
With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team
Carlos Lopez
Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au
-----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Peter Lau Sent: Friday, 26 April 2019 7:10 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha loan table
I wonder if the following can be set up so that:
*Category of Borrowers*
*Loan Quota*
*Book*
*AV*
Students
6 items
Loan Period
# of renewal
Loan Period
# of renewal
14 days
2 times
7 days
2 times
So that a student can only borrow up to 6 items like 6 Books, or 6 AV, or 3 Books & 3 AV BUT NOT 6 Books & 6 AV Items.
Thanks & regards,
*Peter Lau*
Librarian
Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320
*YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk
2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen
*YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong* _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Dear Carlos, Thanks for your info. However, I still don't understand how we can make it work like the following cases: Case Max. Type A Max. Type B Max. Type A + Type B Max. Type C Max. Type D Max. Type C + Type D Max Type E Max Type A – E 1 6 0 6 2 0 2 1 9 2 5 1 6 1 1 2 1 9 3 4 2 6 0 2 2 1 9 4 3 3 6 1 1 2 1 9 5 2 4 6 2 0 2 1 9 6 1 5 6 1 1 2 1 9 7 0 6 6 0 2 2 1 9 Thanks & regards, Peter Lau Librarian Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320 YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | www.yccece.edu.hk 2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong -----Original Message----- From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:clopez@dml.vic.edu.au] Sent: Monday, 29 April 2019 6:41 AM To: Peter Lau <peter.lau@yccece.edu.hk>; koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: RE: [Koha] Koha loan table Hi Peter If you look at the top of the Circulation and Fine Rules page there is a rule priority order listed: """ The rules are applied from most specific to less specific, using the first found in this order: same library, same user category, same item type same library, same user category, all item types same library, all user categories, same item type same library, all user categories, all item types default (all libraries), same user category, same item type default (all libraries), same user category, all item types default (all libraries), all user categories, same item type default (all libraries), all user categories, all item types """ So if you wanted to restrict loans for a particular user category to 6 (regardless of item type) this should be possible (just set item type to "All" for that rule). Just make sure you don't have any rules higher up that might lead the system to ignore this. With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team Carlos Lopez Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052 Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library@dml.vic.edu.au | library.dmlibrary.org.au -----Original Message----- From: Koha <koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz> On Behalf Of Peter Lau Sent: Friday, 26 April 2019 7:10 PM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: [Koha] Koha loan table I wonder if the following can be set up so that: *Category of Borrowers* *Loan Quota* *Book* *AV* Students 6 items Loan Period # of renewal Loan Period # of renewal 14 days 2 times 7 days 2 times So that a student can only borrow up to 6 items like 6 Books, or 6 AV, or 3 Books & 3 AV BUT NOT 6 Books & 6 AV Items. Thanks & regards, *Peter Lau* Librarian Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau@yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320 [image: https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wiYZQsqhNTJZjyNbLJx-6ODZyoYE5NNu&revid=0BzpPRj4UE0XeT1R2WUt2dnhmTFBBeEpVR3dqcU5QbnF6NVg4PQ ] *YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk 2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen *YCCECE is a member of YCEF, and both are registered non-profits in Hong Kong* _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha -- Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering.http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg Click here to report this message as spam: https://console.mailguard.com.au/ras/1VAb0dyrJy/6PrUvcShthZbQV1IqNt1nq/0.4
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