From my brief testing with Koha 3.0, a parent who logs in does not have access to any associated child accounts.
So, for a parent looking for a quick way to check what items his/ her family has checked out, s/he either has to check out all materials on one card, or check each account individually. Neither option is ideal. Are there workarounds for this? How big an enhancement would this be? I know privacy concerns would kick in at some point, particularly with teenagers, but for the younger set (elementary/ middle school years), I think some kind of "family administrator" account makes sense. Cheers, Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH
* Cab Vinton (bibliwho@gmail.com) wrote:
From my brief testing with Koha 3.0, a parent who logs in does not have access to any associated child accounts.
So, for a parent looking for a quick way to check what items his/ her family has checked out, s/he either has to check out all materials on one card, or check each account individually. Neither option is ideal.
Are there workarounds for this? How big an enhancement would this be?
I know privacy concerns would kick in at some point, particularly with teenagers, but for the younger set (elementary/ middle school years), I think some kind of "family administrator" account makes sense.
Koha definitely used to have this feature, and it will be needed back. In Koha 2.2.x and earlier, in the detail section it had hyperlinks to each of the children attached to an adult record. And from the children back. In 3.0.x (and looks like what will be 3.2.x) we only have the links back from child to guarantor. Can you add this as a bug, and I will endeavour to add it back in. Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
On v. 3.01.00.058 I see a link on the staff client to the child from the parent and from the parent to the child -- so -- nothing to fix :) Cab, it sounds like you're asking for something in the OPAC though? Is that right? Nicole On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Chris Cormack<chrisc@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
* Cab Vinton (bibliwho@gmail.com) wrote:
From my brief testing with Koha 3.0, a parent who logs in does not have access to any associated child accounts.
So, for a parent looking for a quick way to check what items his/ her family has checked out, s/he either has to check out all materials on one card, or check each account individually. Neither option is ideal.
Are there workarounds for this? How big an enhancement would this be?
I know privacy concerns would kick in at some point, particularly with teenagers, but for the younger set (elementary/ middle school years), I think some kind of "family administrator" account makes sense.
Koha definitely used to have this feature, and it will be needed back. In Koha 2.2.x and earlier, in the detail section it had hyperlinks to each of the children attached to an adult record.
And from the children back. In 3.0.x (and looks like what will be 3.2.x) we only have the links back from child to guarantor.
Can you add this as a bug, and I will endeavour to add it back in.
Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
* Cab Vinton (bibliwho@gmail.com) wrote:
Cab, it sounds like you're asking for something in the OPAC though? Is that right?
Yes, that's right. Premise of the message was the parent logging in, which is obviously on the OPAC side (unless s/he happens to be a staff member!)
Ahh in that case, definitely a new feature, that has missed the feature freeze for 3.2.0 .. unless you bribe Galen :) Chris -- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
I quite like this feature .... we can pay you to do it Chris. Chris Cormack wrote:
* Cab Vinton (bibliwho@gmail.com) wrote:
Cab, it sounds like you're asking for something in the OPAC though? Is that right?
Yes, that's right. Premise of the message was the parent logging in, which is obviously on the OPAC side (unless s/he happens to be a staff member!)
Ahh in that case, definitely a new feature, that has missed the feature freeze for 3.2.0 .. unless you bribe Galen :)
Chris
* Joann Ransom (jransom@library.org.nz) wrote:
I quite like this feature .... we can pay you to do it Chris.
Write up an enhancement bug :) But like I say we have missed the feature freeze for 3.2 so it would need to be in the next release. Chris
Chris Cormack wrote:
* Cab Vinton (bibliwho@gmail.com) wrote:
Cab, it sounds like you're asking for something in the OPAC though? Is that right?
Yes, that's right. Premise of the message was the parent logging in, which is obviously on the OPAC side (unless s/he happens to be a staff member!)
Ahh in that case, definitely a new feature, that has missed the feature freeze for 3.2.0 .. unless you bribe Galen :)
Chris
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-- Chris Cormack Catalyst IT Ltd. +64 4 803 2238 PO Box 11-053, Manners St, Wellington 6142, New Zealand
Hi Cab, If you would like to load it into bugzilla, I'll accept to sponsor it and Chris can do the work in the next few weeks. Cheers Jo. Cab Vinton wrote:
From my brief testing with Koha 3.0, a parent who logs in does not have access to any associated child accounts.
So, for a parent looking for a quick way to check what items his/ her family has checked out, s/he either has to check out all materials on one card, or check each account individually. Neither option is ideal.
Are there workarounds for this? How big an enhancement would this be?
I know privacy concerns would kick in at some point, particularly with teenagers, but for the younger set (elementary/ middle school years), I think some kind of "family administrator" account makes sense.
Cheers,
Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
Might I add to this spec that you have a way to turn this on and off - just because of the privacy issues that Cab mentioned. Nicole 2009/9/9 Joann Ransom <jransom@library.org.nz>:
Hi Cab,
If you would like to load it into bugzilla, I'll accept to sponsor it and Chris can do the work in the next few weeks.
Cheers Jo.
Cab Vinton wrote:
From my brief testing with Koha 3.0, a parent who logs in does not have access to any associated child accounts.
So, for a parent looking for a quick way to check what items his/ her family has checked out, s/he either has to check out all materials on one card, or check each account individually. Neither option is ideal.
Are there workarounds for this? How big an enhancement would this be?
I know privacy concerns would kick in at some point, particularly with teenagers, but for the younger set (elementary/ middle school years), I think some kind of "family administrator" account makes sense.
Cheers,
Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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Might I add to this spec that you have a way to turn this on and off - just because of the privacy issues that Cab mentioned.
Definitely -- but turned on/ off at the level of the individual child, not at the parent level. Latter would mean that account info for ALL children is always accessible/ not accessible; more flexibility is needed, for children of different ages. Enhancement request has been submitted along these lines: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3591 Thank you, Joann! Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH
Pie-in-the-sky, ideal-land would be to give one or both parents "family administrator" privileges. Pie-in-the-sky because at present a child account is linked to just one parent account, so this would have to be re-worked as well. Cab Vinton, Director Sanbornton Public Library Sanbornton, NH
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