Well, I'm one of the offenders here, but it's probably worth pointing out that we've gotten a bit sloppy about which messages we're sending to which mailing lists again. If you're replying to an email, please check the To: and Cc: lines to make sure your sending it only to the lists (or people) you mean to. There's not a great deal of benefit in discussing development and troubleshooting on the koha list, nor asking about day to day use or where to find bar-code readers on the koha-devel list. Hopefully cutting some of the cross-list mailings will help keep everyone's mailbox in check. thanks, -pate Pat Eyler Kaitiaki/manager migrant Linux sys admin the Koha project ruby, shell, and perl geek http://www.koha.org http://pate.eylerfamily.org