Hi everyone the fines2.pl now is working properly with me , but the way it calculates the fines is strange for me . it just calculate the fines at two dates the first one is caled first reminder the second one is called second notice , if the borrower returned the book between these dates the fines will be the fine for the first reminder only . I'd like to be sure that this is the way Koha workes with, so is that the way ? what we want to do is to make the fine equals the diffrence multiplied by the fine amount . thanks for your help Mohamed Amin Network Administrator National Training Institute Egypt _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail