Salvete! I want to be very clear in stating that I mean no offence to any party by this posting, but I wanted to chime in on this very important discussion. I found there to be nothing inappropriate or deceptive in the release. A search of the archives of both the Developer list and this list shows slim pickings from PTFS, all of the postings very recent indeed. With no commits, and no documentation written to my knowledge, and no postings on the listserv, I feel that it's accurate to say that your company hasn't been involved with the project. The worry, as I see it, would be that the support you might provide might not be as high quality as it would if you were involved, and that any enhancements might not be contributed back. I'm glad that you say that they will be. I am also glad that you have Librarians on board to help you. Rachel is the Kaitiaki. We, as a community, voted for her to represent our values, and oversee the health of the project. I am glad that she is looking out for the project's best interests, as she always has. In the years that I've known her through this list, she's never been deceptive or inappropriate. Nor has Paul, who sent the letter from his account. Neither has Chris, who programmed the code. I find it hard to believe that any of them would change the rules, but if anything needs clarification, Rachel is the final authority for the project short of a formal vote of the membership. While I regret that your first exposure to the listserv was what it was, I like that the release very clearly outlines what PTFS ought do if it wishes to be included on the koha.org site. We aren't seeking to become an exclusive club. Everyone is just looking out for each other in the spirit of fair play. Cheers, Brooke