Le 15/10/2010 02:23, david@lang.hm a écrit :
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, MJ Ray wrote
david@lang.hm wrote:
what software in Ubuntu are you not allowed to modify?
Please ask on an FSF or FSFE list. It's off-topic here.
you are the one making the claim that the software shipped with Ubuntu is not allowed to be modified.
Not "the software", but "at least one of the softwares shipped with Ubuntu is not allowed to be modified". I use Ubuntu, with at least 2 non free software : nvidia drivers, and skype. shame on me, but MJ is 100% right here. ( and it's still off-topic ;-) )
I think Mozilla is different to the 40%-LibLime KSF in three ways:
What seems unacceptable to me is the 40% = we are, like most FLOSS, meritocracy driven. And ptfs is far far far from having 40% of the merits. Important note : the meritocracy is not related to COMPANIES, it's usually related to INDIVIDUALS. At OpenWorldForum last week, I was at a conference by Eclipse foundation : the bylaws are clear = only individuals have a voice. No companies.
I prefer the individual choice, from far. and ptfs is far from having ppl with so much merit. Look at commits, druth & jane are smart ppl, but obviously not key people (no offense here, I really appreciate them, as every devs) In history, no one from ptfs has had a key responsability: Release Manager, Release Maintainer, Translation Manager, Doc Manager, ... Ppl that used to be LL employees took such responsabilities, but they are no more at LL or involved in the community. So, definetly, giving 40% to ptfs in a foundation seems impossible to me (should I say silly, crazy, un-understandable? I don't want to offend anyone with a frenchism, but you've got the idea : i'm strongly against) -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : (33) 4 91 81 35 08