Kurt, [adding the list so everyone can benefit from your examples] I can see setting a default 'not needed after' date in an academic library, since by and large most students would not care about getting a school-related book after the semester ended. This would need to be overridable, so they could place holds for next semester, or for pleasure-reading. It would also need to be updated easily by the librarians every term.... and probably on a per-patron type basis, so that professors didn't get caught up with the same default date. The other examples are very individual, and likely work well with the current, non-default functionality as it exists now. We could certainly add this to Koha, but figuring out the management interface would be tricky. We could set the default cancel-after date with the circ matrix (provided we got our ergonomic improvements for that down first), but perhaps patrons would want to be able to adjust these things on an individual basis (making this a User Preference)... -Ian On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Kurt Bodling <kbodling@mountvernon.org>wrote:
“If you've got a use-case where a hold would need a default "not needed after" date, I'd love to hear it; I'm having trouble picturing it on my own, but I absolutely believe there is a possible situation where this may be needed!”
How about ‘not needed after 15 June 2011 … because that’s the end of the semester and if I don’t have the book by then to look over I will not pass the class anyway.’
Or ‘not needed after 23 May 2011 … because my Book Club meeting is on the 25th and if I don’t get the library copy by the 23rd I will have to go buy a copy in order to skim through the text before the meeting.”
Or ‘not needed after 30 May 2011 … because that’s when the nursing license recertification exam is and I won’t have any need to review the procedures after that date.”
. . . . that sort of thing.
We used to get requests like that all the time when I was in a college library.
Kurt A. Bodling
Technical Services Librarian
George Washington's Mount Vernon
Estate, Museum & Gardens
P.O. Box 110
Mount Vernon, VA 22121
Phone: 703-799-6835
Fax: 703-799-8698
Email: kbodling@mountvernon.org
*From:* koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] *On Behalf Of *Ian Walls *Sent:* Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:34 PM *To:* Linda Culberson *Cc:* koha *Subject:* Re: [Koha] Koha: hold period
Linda,
Holds will remain in the system indefinitely if they are never filled. I suppose this could happen if the queue was constantly rearranged to put someone at the bottom every time, but generally, it cycles through and everyone gets their material eventually. If it's very popular, the wait may just be very long.
Once the hold is marked as 'ready' and is waiting on the hold shelf, the patron has <<ReservesMaxPickupDelay>> days to come and get it before it's marked problematic. ReservesMaxPickupDelay is a system preference you can set in the Circulation tab.
Even after that date is past, the hold will still exist (it's not auto-cancelled, though we're working on making that an option). It will appear on a separate report for manual review and cancellation.
If you've got a use-case where a hold would need a default "not needed after" date, I'd love to hear it; I'm having trouble picturing it on my own, but I absolutely believe there is a possible situation where this may be needed!
Cheers,
-Ian
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Linda Culberson < lculber@mdah.state.ms.us> wrote:
All, This is probably a really stupid question, so I apologize. Where can I set a default hold period? I know that the patron can set a "Hold not needed after" date, but is there a way to set a default that the hold period isn't indefinite?
Thanks. -- Linda Culberson lculber@mdah.state.ms.us Archives and Records Services Division Ms. Dept. of Archives & History P. O. Box 571 Jackson, MS 39205-0571 Telephone: 601/576-6873 Fax: 601/576-6824
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