Whoops "Liblime purchased all copyrights to the Koha code and marks that Katipo used to own" ok that being so... it changes things! remember most of my time here was before KOHA even was mark record complaint and certainly before lib-lime even existed! I remember people in France & UK not even wanting LC system in Koha... guess that got straightened out eh we have both dewey and lc! I wandered onto other projects shortly after I offered the suggestion to use google methodology as the search method.. and as far as I know that was implemented. Pat (?) In Utah was the kati ki whatever ya call it. I sporadically monitor the list.... but a possible logo war got my attention! What have I done in the meantime? still museum stuff but also filmaking news shooting won an Emmy (R) Award in 07. Life is GOOD! getting old is a bit creaky but expected! Still waiting for Koha to run on shared hosting with out any special necessities.. due to the cheap cost of hosting and large amounts of storage available these days I did not want to baby sit servers any longer so years back went to offsite servers. Makes it nice when you are on vacation if there is an outage you just call up and prod them! In a message dated 5/10/2009 6:49:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kyle.m.hall@gmail.com writes: That is quite a statement to make. Just because the source code is open source does not mean the Koha trademarks are. Do you think someone else should be able to make another ILS and call it Koha just because they can? Liblime is a primary contributor to Koha and has registered the Koha trademark in the US to prevent its dilution, the same goes for Biblibre in France. Liblime purchased all copyrights to the Koha code and marks that Katipo used to own, if I have my history correct. I don't think you understand how Open Source works all that well. Kyle http://www.kylehall.info Information Technology Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org ) In a message dated 5/10/2009 6:49:55 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, kyle.m.hall@gmail.com writes: That is quite a statement to make. Just because the source code is open source does not mean the Koha trademarks are. Do you think someone else should be able to make another ILS and call it Koha just because they can? Liblime is a primary contributor to Koha and has registered the Koha trademark in the US to prevent its dilution, the same goes for Biblibre in France. Liblime purchased all copyrights to the Koha code and marks that Katipo used to own, if I have my history correct. I don't think you understand how Open Source works all that well. Kyle http://www.kylehall.info Information Technology Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org ) **************The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222376999x1201454299/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=M ay51009AvgfooterNO62)