Monday, August 30, 2004 16:25 CDT Hi, Gerry, Before you make any other pronouncements on the subject, a thought that might not have occurred to you: perhaps people think that what they are doing to unsub from Koha is the correct procedure *based on their previous experience with listservs.* I am far too untrusting of most computer-things to make too many assumptions -- and hence am always bugging tech people to make absolutely sure I've understood correctly --, but in defense of the (I will admit) somewhat out-of-the-loop souls who keep trying to unsub from Koha by sending a message to the Koha listserv, what we have seen over the past month (and more) would actually have worked for three listservs I used to follow, all of which, ironically given your denouncement, were for library workers. I realise that bashing unsub'ers is kind of like making jokes about the Amish at a comedy club -- not likely you're going to hear much protest from the target of the joke -- but it might not hurt to clarify things in the footer as has been suggested. IIRC, the AUTOCAT listserv messages (is it run out of your location of SUNY, I cannot remember?) offered a rather lengthy footer that made things very clear: to change how one received the listserv (direct messages, daily digest) click link A, to unsub, link B, to pause for vacation, link C, etc., etc. At the very least, clarifying matters with the footer will allow you full rights of contempt to diss any future English-as-first-language users who dare try to unsub via the list. Maybe it'll even frighten people to keep going with Koha! ;-) Steven F. Baljkas library tech at large Koha neophyte Winnipeg, MB, Canada
From: Gerry Arthus <garthus@lilrc.org> Date: 2004/08/29 Sun PM 05:34:07 CDT To: Mike Mylonas <mike@dragon-is.co.nz> CC: Koha <Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz> Subject: Re: [Koha] Mailing List Footer
Mike, Given the obvious stupidity of numerous people with college degrees perhaps you are right. But be forewarned, there are no depths to which the lazy mind will not sink to as technology makes most of the human population ever more superfluous. Please do not forget that we are talking about software which is directed towards those in the library field; people who (assuming English is their first language) should know how to read.
Gerry
Gerry Arthus
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Mylonas wrote:
Hi Team,
Given the number of "Please remove me from your list" or "Unsubscribe" messages posted to the list makes we wonder if we should investigate changing the footer that is attached to each list message to make unsubscribing easier.
I would suggest something like ... <begin sample footer> _______________________________________________ Koha Users Mailing List To unsubscribe, send email to koha-request@lists.katipo.co.nz or visit http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
<end sample footer>
Anyways just my thoughts ...
Cheers Mike