I have a query to find borrowers with late books that do not have email addresses or mobiles. Now I am trying to modify it so it will show their school from attributes if they have one but won't knock them off the list if they don't. My modification below shows only those with no email and no mobile and a school but knocks people off the list who have no school attribute. How can I modify it so it includes no mobile no email and lists school for those who have one but still includes those who don't? SELECT borrowers.surname,borrowers.firstname,borrowers.mobile,borrowers.email,borrowers.city, biblio.title,biblioitems.itemtype,issues.date_due,borrower_attributes.attribute FROM borrowers LEFT JOIN borrower_attributes on (borrower_attributes.borrowernumber = borrowers.borrowernumber) LEFT JOIN issues on (issues.borrowernumber = borrowers.borrowernumber) LEFT JOIN items on (items.itemnumber = issues.itemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblioitems on (items.biblioitemnumber=biblioitems.biblioitemnumber) LEFT JOIN biblio on (biblioitems.biblionumber=biblio.biblionumber) WHERE issues.date_due < DATE_SUB(now(), INTERVAL 8 DAY) AND issues.returndate IS NULL AND borrowers.mobile = ' ' AND borrowers.email = ' ' AND borrower_attributes.code = 'School' ORDER BY borrowers.surname asc; Thanks for your help! Carol -- supporting Lao youth in their quest for a brighter future.... The Language Project…an American 501(c)3 charity Website: www.thelanguageproject.org Gallery: http://laophotographers.zenfolio.com Lao address: PO Box 905, Luang Prabang, Laos Lao mobile: 856 20 97122771 US address: PO Box 13201, Tallahassee, FL 32317