[Koha] Question on Cronjob for building holds queue

[Bruns, Anke]

Hi David,

thanks!

I tried disabling the RealTimeHoldsQueue parameter, and so far no more error messages have arrived. So this seems to have been the reason, as you say.

Best regards,
Anke



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> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: David Nind <david at davidnind.com>
> Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juni 2025 21:06
> An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de>
> Cc: koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
> Betreff: Re: [Koha] Question on Cronjob for building holds queue
> 
> My limited understanding is that if the RealTimeHoldsQueue is enabled, then
> the holds queue cronjob doesn't need to be run (https://koha-
> community.org/manual/latest/en/html/circulationpreferences.html#realtim
> eholdsqueue), and vice-versa
> 
> I'm not sure of the advantages and disadvantages of using either the
> RealTimeHoldsQueue or the cronjob to build the holds queue.
> 
> 
> I guess it would depend on how often your holds queue needs updating,
> system resources available, and your library's workflow.
> 
> David Nind
> New Zealand
> 
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 at 23:37, Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de
> <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 	OK, I found out a difference between this and the other instances:
> The
> 	parameter RealTimeHoldsQueue was set to enable, whereas in the
> instances
> 	without the error message it was set to disable.
> 
> 	Should I try to disable the setting here as well to avoid the error
> message?
> 
> 	Best regards,
> 	Anke
> 
> 	> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> 	> Von: Bruns, Anke
> 	> Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juni 2025 10:22
> 	> An: 'koha' <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> <mailto:koha at lists.katipo.co.nz> >
> 	> Betreff: Question on Cronjob for building holds queue
> 	>
> 	> Dear list,
> 	>
> 	> one, and only one of our Koha servers/instances regularly sends
> this
> 	> message:
> 	>
> 	> ----------
> 	> /etc/cron.hourly/koha-common:
> 	> RealTimeHoldsQueue system preference is enabled, holds queue
> not built.
> 	> Use --force to force building the holds queue.
> 	> ipp-greifswald: 1 status returned by
> 	> "/usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl
> <http://build_holds_queue.pl> "
> 	> ----------
> 	>
> 	> Does this mean we have to add --force as a parameter to the
> relevant line
> 	in
> 	> koha-common, changing
> 	>
> 	> koha-foreach --chdir --enabled
> 	> /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl
> <http://build_holds_queue.pl>
> 	>
> 	> to
> 	>
> 	> koha-foreach --chdir --enabled
> 	> /usr/share/koha/bin/cronjobs/holds/build_holds_queue.pl
> <http://build_holds_queue.pl>  --force
> 	>
> 	> ?
> 	>
> 	> I am asking because in none of our other instances this error
> message
> 	comes
> 	> up although they all do not have the --force parameter.
> 	>
> 	> Thanks for your help in advance, and have a nice Monday!
> 	> Anke
> 	>
> 	>
> 	> --
> 	> Anke Bruns M.A. (LIS)
> 	> Arbeitsgruppe "Organisation, Betrieb und Entwicklung von
> Diensten"
> 	> E-Mail: anke.bruns at gwdg.de <mailto:anke.bruns at gwdg.de>
> 	> Tel.: +49 551 39-30291
> 	> -----------------------------
> 	> Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche Datenverarbeitung mbH
> Göttingen
> 	> (GWDG)
> 	> Burckhardtweg 4, 37077 Göttingen, URL: https://gwdg.de
> 	>
> 	> Support: Tel.: +49 551 39-30000, URL: https://gwdg.de/support
> 	> Sekretariat: Tel.: +49 551 39-30001, E-Mail: gwdg at gwdg.de
> <mailto:gwdg at gwdg.de>
> 	>
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