[Koha] Batch modification: Possibility to copy subfield content to another field's fixed positions?
Bruns, Anke
Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de
Mon Feb 28 21:25:25 NZDT 2022
Hi Lauren,
thanks a lot! I was just about to ask the MarcEdit forums, but now I'll try this first.
Regards,
Anke
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Lauren Denny <lauren_denny at sil.org>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Februar 2022 21:23
> An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de>
> Cc: Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org>; koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> Betreff: Re: [Koha] Batch modification: Possibility to copy subfield content to
> another field's fixed positions?
>
> Hi Anke,
>
> Try this site:
> https://marcedit.reeset.net/edit-subfield-append-prepend-and-change-subfield-
> functions under Moving Subfield Data:
>
>
> I just tried it on some of our records in the MarcEdit 7.5 and it worked.
>
>
> Lauren
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 9:26 AM Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de
> <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de> > wrote:
>
>
> Hi Elaine,
>
> this is a very interesting hint, thank you.
>
> The solution would require using MarcEdit's delimited text translator.
> However, I tried, but either this feature wasn't integrated at the time or for
> whatever reason, it doesn't work as expected. I just see the bracketed field and
> subfield numbers instead of the content of 260$c.
> Maybe I did something wrong?
> I tried round, square and curly brackets, as in the video I couldn't quite
> see which ones were used.
>
> Best regards,
> Anke
>
>
>
>
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> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org <mailto:eb at efdss.org> >
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. Februar 2022 19:13
> > An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de
> <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de> >
> > Cc: Stowasser Rainer <rainer.stowasser at zamg.ac.at
> <mailto:rainer.stowasser at zamg.ac.at> >; koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
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> > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Batch modification: Possibility to copy subfield
> content to
> > another field's fixed positions?
> >
> > My best guess would be export the data and use MarcEdit to do it
> there.
> > Here's an old video that discusses a feature under development in
> 2011.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhx_hpdPZFI
> > Elaine
> > VWML <https://vwml.org>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 12:25 AM Bruns, Anke
> <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de>
> > <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de> > >
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > thanks for the replies! As I understand, we should, instead of
> > "physically" copying the content to the fixed field, map the search
> index
> > differently.
> >
> > Personally, I would prefer a copy possibility, as probably the year
> index
> > was meant by Koha developers to search 008 for a reason (wasn't
> it?). And
> > wouldn't a change of the index be overwritten with a new Koha
> upgrade?
> >
> > The copy possibility into specified positions of fixed fields would
> come
> > in handy for some other purposes as well, so is there really no way to
> do it?
> >
> > Have a good week,
> > Anke
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Stowasser Rainer <rainer.stowasser at zamg.ac.at
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> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Februar 2022 13:04
> > > An: Bruns, Anke <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de
> <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de>
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> > > Cc: Thomas Klausner <domm at plix.at <mailto:domm at plix.at>
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> > > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Batch modification: Possibility to copy
> subfield
> > content to
> > > another field's fixed positions?
> > >
> > > Dear Anke
> > >
> > > same answer ;-)
> > >
> > > but a little more work
> > >
> > >
> > > https://wiki.koha-
> community.org/wiki/Understanding_Zebra_indexing
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Hofrat Mag. Rainer Stowasser
> > > Head of Library and Archives ZAMG
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 18.02.2022 um 12:34 schrieb Bruns, Anke
> > <Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de>
> <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de> >
> > > <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de>
> <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de <mailto:Anke.Bruns at gwdg.de> > > >:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > thanks! However, alas, we are on Zebra.
> > >
> > > Good luck with your solution!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Anke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: Koha <koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz
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> > Im Auftrag von Thomas Klausner
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Februar 2022 12:31
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> > > Betreff: Re: [Koha] Batch modification: Possibility to
> copy
> > > subfield content to
> > > another field's fixed positions?
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:12:22AM +0000, Bruns, Anke
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > in order to be able to use the search index for
> > > publication year, the year
> > > must to my knowledge be mentioned in 008,
> positions
> > > 7-10.
> > > Is there a way to populate this with the content
> from
> > > 264$c which, in my
> > > case, is always a yyyy? In the templates for batch
> > > operations I can only
> > > find ways to copy into fields with subfields, not into
> > > fixed fields.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you're using ElasticSearch, you could change the
> > > Elasticsearch
> > > mappings to use 264$c for date-of-publication (instead
> of the
> > > default
> > > 008_/7-10). Though I haven't tested that yet, but we've
> just
> > had
> > > a
> > > meeting where we decided to try it this way... :-)
> > >
> > > Not really an answer to your question, but if you're only
> > asking
> > > the
> > > question to get the data searchable, it should be still
> usable.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > domm
> > >
> > > --
> > > #!/usr/bin/perl https://domm.plix.at
> > > for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-
> > g&&print$_.$/}
> > >
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