[Koha] Number of Koha Libraries in the Word

[Paul A]

At 09:24 PM 12/13/2016 +0000, Mike D. wrote:
>Hi,
>I vote for Hea, because is easy way to have actual data from libraies 
>/.../ clear delclaration about data usage license and privacy /.../ Hea is 
>best way to collect data from Koha instalation, easy and fast.

[limited to Canada] We have a lawyer on our board, who suggests that 
libraries cannot verify the Koha code (technically, in detail), therefore 
if there is a breach of privacy, Koha Community would be responsible. This 
to me is *NOT* a good thing -- I certainly would not want the community to 
be under any threat.

Collecting data, in today's world, happens regularly, legally and 
illegally; there is a fine line between "maybe OK" and "not completely 
bulletproof"; consent is one thing, but just clicking "OK" for sysprefs 
during an install is wide open to challenges.

I would really suggest that if Hea is the way the community feels it should 
go, that this becomes a very conscious, up-front "add-on" voluntary service 
with "informed consent" well defined. [/limited to Canada]

Best -- Paul


>Take care
>
>Mike.
>
>út 13. 12. 2016 v 18:52 odesílatel BOUIS Sonia <sonia.bouis at univ-lyon3.fr>
>napsal:
>
>Hi,
>I maybe missed the action, but I pretty agree with Nate. I'm for the
>improvement of Hea, and I hope that we can have better results with it in
>few time.
>For the moment, I think we need to have user friendly interface for people
>who doesn't really know koha. Especially if we want to do some marketing on
>Koha.
>Old Koha version libraries are on the Marshall Breeding list but they will
>not be in hea while they don't update their versions and I'm not sure they
>will do it really soon.
>In France, KohaLa association have begun a google map to show french
>speaking users of Koha. We could surely use Marshal Breeding's map.
>As a librarian, I can see colleagues that can find reassuring to see on the
>map that there's a lot of libraries using Koha and some of them at few
>kilometers.
>
>So, I'm totally to improve hea, but I think we should use the Marshall
>Breeding list meanwhile.
>
>Cheers,
>Sonia
>
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>Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 18:19:01 -0500
>From: Nathan Curulla <nate at bywatersolutions.com>
>To: Koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
>Subject: Re: [Koha] Number of Koha Libraries in the Word
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>Hi Everyone,
>
>I hear what you are all saying about this and agree that it would be better
>to roll our own, but here is the thing: Hea is not user friendly at all and
>the Wiki is not a good marketing tool because it is not pretty (no offense
>on either of these). If you really want to market Koha you need to look at
>these things from the eyes of a non-developer, non-tech oriented librarian.
>If you do that you will see that these two tools are not optimal,
>especially in comparison to something that larger companies that Koha
>competes with are going to put out.
>
>It is good to hear that you want to clean things up and re-invent the
>wheel, but actually doing that in a reasonable amount of time in a
>competitive environment is another thing. If someone has a concrete
>proposal for an attractive, sortable, searchable, easy to submit to option
>on the website for libraries to put information in than I think that would
>be great and I will do everything to help that I can, but who is going to
>do it and when? With products like Folio coming Koha needs to be front and
>center in the open source library world and showing the world how many
>people use it is a no brainer (and should be easy) in terms of ways to do
>just that.
>
>So the options are that someone volunteers to create this interface
>(ByWater staff can help with this if given the access and permission, but
>we aren’t going to do it alone) with a completion target of end of Feb.
>2017, or we link out to a third party site that already has the content. If
>we don’t hear from anyone about the former we are going to go with the
>latter. We need to move on this kind of stuff soon or Koha will be left in
>the dust in the coming emergence of open source in the library world. We
>need to become more accessible to those who don’t code, otherwise we are
>playing into the misconception that open source is for developers only.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>-Nate
>
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