[Koha] [ByWater Partners] [Koha North America] Your suggestions for a new name of Koha NA

Stebbings, Wade Wade.Stebbings at walkerart.org
Tue Dec 22 05:14:09 NZDT 2015


Owen,

Christopher said ³for many, travel outside of the U.S. Is prohibited,²
which sounds more like travel constraints due to policy reasons, not due
to cost. If we¹re really talking about cost-optimization, then the focus
on contiguous-US is misplaced: cost has more to do with location than
distance, some locations are simply much higher cost to stay. For example,
my recent conference trip to Chicago (c. 400 miles), flying and driving
were close to the same cost, but the cost of accommodations by far
exceeded everything else. Chicago is expensive, New York is expensive, San
Francisco is expensive, Winnipeg is not. It has nothing to do with
political boundaries. The majority of Canadian population lives relatively
close to the Canadian-US border, Edmonton being the most egregious outlier.

Agreed, we need to step back and rethink, What problem are we trying to
solve? ŒHot water¹ doesn¹t say much.

If that answer drives the shape and expanse of the organization, or
chapter, then fine. But not until that is decided do we name something. It
is now obvious to me the exercise of naming something is way too premature.

‹wade

On 12/21/15, 8:02 AM, "partners-bounces at bywatersolutions.com on behalf of
Owen Leonard" <partners-bounces at bywatersolutions.com on behalf of
oleonard at myacpl.org> wrote:

>I think everyone needs to pause and reflect on what the goal of this
>process is, because we seem to be continuing to dig this hole deeper
>instead of climbing out.
>
>> all face-to-face meetings will be
>> held within the contiguous U.S. to ensure that U.S. Koha users have a
>> better chance to attend them (for many, travel outside of the U.S. is
>> prohibited).
>
>The goal of this process is to define the terms of a Koha user group
>which meets within the contiguous United States. This narrow
>definition is of the location of the meetings, not of those who are
>welcome in the group.
>
>This rule about meeting locations is not made in order to be
>exclusionary, but in order to create more opportunities for U.S.
>members to participate. The United States is big, travel is expensive,
>and libraries don't like to spend money.
>
>I would encourage everyone to make suggestions which don't have "North
>America" or "America" as a basis. Both terms include areas which are
>outside the contiguous United States and thus explicitly excluded.
>Take a look at the maps:
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
>
>Terms like "North America" and "America" are WHY we're hot water in
>the first place.
>
> -- Owen
>
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