[Koha] Comment: Koha Community Code of Conduct

[Elaine Bradtke]

Would that it was as simple as:
Play nicely with others; no name-calling,  teasing, or bad language. . .
Sadly, we're not five years old anymore.

I would like to plea for clear, concise language. Especially given the
large number of Koha users whose native tongue is not English.

I might even offer to help edit it. . . though I'm not usually known for my
brevity!

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:34 PM, glaws <glawson at rhcl.org> wrote:

> I wish I knew the background better, but a lot of the recent discussion
> on Codes of Conduct I think stems from some recent problems in the
> gaming community. Again, I admit my knowledge is limited, but I think it
> had something to do with male gamers putting down female gamers; very
> offensive words and actions were used in that situation, and the
> "outing" of personally identifying information was one of the problems.
>
> I think any reasonable person applying a reasonable standard would
> realize the CoC wording as is currently stands wouldn't apply to the
> examples I cited, nor to yours. It's the unreasonable factors we have to
> be concerned with, and just a little modding of the wording will fix
> things.
>
>
> Greg
>
> --------------------
>
>
>
> On 09/26/2014 04:12 PM, Viktor.Sarge at regionhalland.se wrote:
> > I highly agree with the spirit of the CoC, but with this discussion I
> realize that taking the following part literally would forbid me to give
> people credit when listening to them during a KohaCon:
> >
> > "Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
> > […]
> >       • Posting (or threatening to post) other people’s personally
> identifying information.
> > […]
> >
> > Names are the mother of personally identifying information and since a
> good reputation is sort of the currency in a FOSS-community not being able
> to publicly give people credit seems counter productive :) I guess the
> paragraph is ment to cover giving credit, but as I read it that may be the
> effect(?)
> >
> > Kind regards/Viktor
> >
> > Viktor Sarge
> > Utvecklingsledare
> > Regionbibliotek Halland
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > 26 sep 2014 kl. 21:49 skrev glaws <glawson at rhcl.org>:
> >
> >> I have some concerns about the Koha Community Code of Conduct posted
> here:
> >>
> >> http://koha-community.org/about/policy/code-of-conduct/
> >> <http://koha-community.org/about/policy/code-of-conduct/>
> >>
> >> My specific concern is the second bullet point:
> >>
> >> Harassment includes, but is not limited to:
> >>
> >>  * ---snip---
> >>  * Verbal, graphic or written comments related to gender, gender
> >>    identity, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance, body
> >>    size, race or religion
> >>
> >>
> >> which seems overly broad.
> >>
> >> Examples
> >>
> >> If, during a conference breaking for lunch, I say to a group of
> >> attendees "I'm Buddhist, is there a vegetarian restaurant near here?", I
> >> would seem to have violated this point (verbal...comment...religion).
> >>
> >> Or if I'm a presenter, and I make a comment for illustrative purposes,
> >> like "Just as people come in all sizes, libraries also vary in size and
> >> Koha is great for all of them", have I violated the code?
> >>
> >> Or if I'm with a group of attendees planning on going out somewhere, and
> >> I say "I have <insert any health problem>, and I can't walk with you
> >> that far", is that a violation?
> >>
> >> I would like to suggest that the wording for this particular point
> >> include something to the effect that the references must be obviously
> >> negative in nature or perhaps intended to give offense to to an average
> >> person _based_on_some_reasonable_standard_.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Greg Lawson
> >>
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