<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I was doing some work on the manual today that necessitated pulling it early, so these changes are now in the manual.<div><br></div><div>Liz Rea</div><div>NEKLS</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 19, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Nicole Engard wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">I have added it to the FAQ:<br><br><a href="http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/circulation/#25">http://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/circulation/#25</a><br><br>and the manual (which won't be on the web until Sunday)<br>
<br><a href="http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=baa1ff503e657a86db42e969c94f405b1dd8f56c">http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=kohadocs.git;a=commit;h=baa1ff503e657a86db42e969c94f405b1dd8f56c</a><br>
<br>Nicole<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Lori Bowen Ayre <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lori.ayre@galecia.com">lori.ayre@galecia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
That sounds good. I know I'm guilty of going with summary versions of things whenever possible and only going back to the super detail level if necessary.<div><br></div><div><font color="#888888">Lori</font><div><div>
</div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Nicole Engard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nengard@gmail.com" target="_blank">nengard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Okay, this is so so so strange - I was looking at this with Liz yesterday. I see the word Important where you see a broken image. Now that I'm replying I see a broken image :)<br>
<br>Anyway, that problem aside - I can reword that to try and make it clearer in the manual - another change that I also think will be ignored - is to put it in the summary at the top of that page.<br><font color="#888888">
<br>Nicole</font><div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Lori Bowen Ayre <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lori.ayre@galecia.com" target="_blank">lori.ayre@galecia.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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You mean this? Can't tell if it is labelled IMPORTANT ....(chrome?)<div><br></div><div><span style="color: rgb(36, 38, 38); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue',Arial,'Lucida Grande','Lucida Sans Unicode','Microsoft YaHei',sans-serif; font-size: 10.8333px; line-height: 20px;"><table style="border-width: 0px; font-size: 13px; margin: 0px; outline-width: 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(62, 88, 103); width: 929px;" width="100%" border="0">
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At the very least you will need to set an absolute default circulation rule. This rule should be set for the default itemtype, default branchcode and default patron category. That will catch anyone who doesn't match a specific rule. Patrons who do not match a specific rule will get blocked from placing holds, since there was no baseline number of holds to utilize.</p>
</td></tr></tbody></table></span><br></div><div>Assuming one uses the documentation (impediment #1), maybe the confusion arises with the use of the expression "absolute default circulation rule." That certainly confuses me.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Also, my understanding is that you have to have the so-called absolute default circulation rule (aka default default) set or no one can place holds even if the other rules are set.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Anyway, clear to me that this is a source of confusion that would benefit from another round of wordsmithing or tightening up (on screen and in documentation). I'd be happy to help but I still don't understand really how it works.</div>
<div><br></div><font color="#888888"><div>Lori</div></font><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Nicole Engard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nengard@gmail.com" target="_blank">nengard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">This is in the manual already -<br>
<a href="http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534" target="_blank">http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=x3293#AEN3534</a><br>
it's labeled as IMPORTANT for a reason :)<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Nicole<br>
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Chris Cormack <<a href="mailto:chrisc@catalyst.net.nz" target="_blank">chrisc@catalyst.net.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div></div><div>> That's the beauty of Koha Lori, you could be that person.<br>
><br>
> Chris<br>
><br>
> Lori Bowen Ayre <<a href="mailto:lori.ayre@galecia.com" target="_blank">lori.ayre@galecia.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>>This is related to the requirement that the system have a "default default"<br>
>>set, otherwise the other defaults won't work...right? Brendan promises me<br>
>>someone will help work on the screen and/or documentation related to this<br>
>>setting. This is now the 5th person I've heard baffled by it in the last<br>
>>couple of days!<br>
>><br>
>>On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Owen Leonard <<a href="mailto:oleonard@myacpl.org" target="_blank">oleonard@myacpl.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> > I'm unfortunately, not quite understanding where you added the "default"<br>
>>> rules at ?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Administration -> Circulation and fines rules<br>
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