Hi all,<br><br>I think forming a combined 'open source in libraries' foundation is definitely worth considering. I don't know much about Code4Lib as an organisation, but is that a body tat may have arole to play here? I need more information!<br>
<br>Cheers Jo. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Ben Ide <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:benide@gmail.com">benide@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Interesting...<br>
<br>
Can anyone think of a reason why a joint effort between the two groups<br>
would be a good/bad idea? Are the two groups too different to form a<br>
collective foundation?<br>
<br>
Thanks for reposting this.<br>
-- Ben<br>
<br>
2009/9/18 <a href="mailto:vtl@scls.lib.wi.us">vtl@scls.lib.wi.us</a> <<a href="mailto:vtl@scls.lib.wi.us">vtl@scls.lib.wi.us</a>>:<br>
<div><div></div><div class="h5">> For those of you who are interested in establishing a Koha foundation, this<br>
> may be of interest. The Evergreen folks are trying to do the same. Perhaps<br>
> we can learn from each other in true open source fashion.<br>
><br>
> Vicki<br>
><br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: Hyman, Ben EDUC:EX <<a href="mailto:Ben.Hyman@gov.bc.ca">Ben.Hyman@gov.bc.ca</a>><br>
> Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:09 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen foundation (again)<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org">open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> I concur entirely with Dan (thanks for reviving this discussion Dan), and<br>
> would love to see the community celebrating the creation of just such a<br>
> Foundation at the conference in Grand Rapids. Perhaps that's being<br>
> unrealistic, but sooner is better, IMHO. I suppose Foundation establishment<br>
> should precede celebration...perhaps an exploratory work group could be<br>
> nominated by the community?<br>
><br>
> Ben Hyman<br>
> Manager, Library Policy & Technology<br>
> Public Library Services Branch, Ministry of Education, BC<br>
> Phone 250.387.4043 or Toll Free 800.663.7051<br>
> <a href="mailto:ben.hyman@gov.bc.ca">ben.hyman@gov.bc.ca</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ben.hyman@gov.bc.ca">ben.hyman@gov.bc.ca</a>><br>
> <a href="http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/pls/" target="_blank">www.bced.gov.bc.ca/pls/</a> <<a href="http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/pls/" target="_blank">http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/pls/</a>><br>
><br>
> From: Dan Scott <<a href="mailto:dan@coffeecode.net">dan@coffeecode.net</a>><br>
><br>
> Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 4:22 PM<br>
><br>
> Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen foundation (again)<br>
><br>
> To: Evergreen Discussion Group <<a href="mailto:open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org">open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org</a>><br>
><br>
> There was a brief discussion shortly after the Evergreen Conference about<br>
> the possibility of setting up an Evergreen Software Foundation [1] and most<br>
> recently a proposal to set up a joint Koha + Evergreen foundation (which is<br>
> probably a function better served by something like <a href="http://www.code4lib.org/" target="_blank">http://www.code4lib.org/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.code4lib.org/" target="_blank">http://www.code4lib.org/</a>> in any case).<br>
><br>
> I posted a response to George's blog post [2] about the difficulties that<br>
> the Koha community has undergone recently and their renewed effort to<br>
> establish a foundation, but in that context I would like to revive the<br>
> discussion about an Evergreen Software Foundation by suggesting that if such<br>
> an entity is formed, it should roughly have the following responsibilities:<br>
><br>
> * Hold the trademarks, logos, and <a href="http://evergreen-ils.org/open-ils.org" target="_blank">evergreen-ils.org/open-ils.org</a> related<br>
> collateral in trust for the use of the community<br>
><br>
> * Extend the community's development capacity (for example, by funding the<br>
> creation of developer training tutorials and workshops, where development<br>
> should be defined broadly to include documentation, usability, design,<br>
> testing, etc)<br>
><br>
> * Coordinate joint funding for the development of new features<br>
><br>
> * Organize the Evergreen International Conferences<br>
><br>
> Further, I suggest that we would be foolish to turn down the Software<br>
> Freedom Conservancy's [3] offer to serve, for free, as the 501(c)(3) [4]<br>
> shell organization that would be able to hold the collateral and financial<br>
> assets in trust for the foundation, and would accept donations to the<br>
> foundation and maintain corporate records and file the tax return (again,<br>
> for free). It has been stated several times that "it's not that hard to file<br>
> the paperwork for a 501(c)(3)", but I would argue that an advantage of the<br>
> Software Freedom Conservancy is that it is a neutral entity.<br>
><br>
> [1]. <a href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/1258" target="_blank">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/1258</a><br>
> <<a href="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/1258" target="_blank">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.education.libraries.open-ils.general/1258</a>><br>
><br>
> [2]. <a href="http://www.parser.ca/z678/2009/09/16/koha-manoeuvres/" target="_blank">http://www.parser.ca/z678/2009/09/16/koha-manoeuvres/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://www.parser.ca/z678/2009/09/16/koha-manoeuvres/" target="_blank">http://www.parser.ca/z678/2009/09/16/koha-manoeuvres/</a>><br>
><br>
> [3]. <a href="http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/" target="_blank">http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/</a><br>
> <<a href="http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/" target="_blank">http://conservancy.softwarefreedom.org/</a>> - "As a fiscal sponsor for FOSS<br>
> projects, the Conservancy provides member projects with free financial and<br>
> administrative services, but does not involve itself with technological and<br>
> artistic decisions."<br>
><br>
> [4]. As a Canadian, I don't care about 501(c)(3) status because I get no tax<br>
> advantages from it.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Vicki Teal Lovely<br>
><br>
> Software Applications Supervisor<br>
> South Central Library System<br>
> <a href="mailto:vtl@scls.lib.wi.us">vtl@scls.lib.wi.us</a><br>
> (608)261-9109<br>
><br>
><br>
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