[Koha] [EXTERNAL] Re: Koha on Debian 10

Tue Jun 7 03:34:54 NZST 2022

Right now I’d suggest a cup of tea, if you have something other than an electric kettle. But never mind that for now.

Have you considered Ubuntu? It’s a derivative of Debian, but slightly easier. If your computer has enough RAM and disk space, you can even install the desktop/GUI version and then install Koha in a terminal window. (Don’t tell the hardcore Debian folks I said this.)

What follows might horrify some people, but I’m a librarian who learned Koha/Ubuntu because I needed to—I didn’t start out as an IT expert. It sounds like you’re in the same situation I was back in 2013 when I started messing about with Koha. I didn’t have support (support vendors are lovely and charming people, but we didn’t have the money), so I had to learn things on my own. It’s a lot easier these days, trust me. I started with Vimal Kumar’s Live DVD, which lets you run Koha as a demo but also lets you install it on a computer. I learned by installing it, breaking it, installing it again, breaking it again, until I knew enough to go to my boss and say “here’s a fully-functional ILS with all our bibliographic data on it. All I need is a more powerful computer to run it on.” Vimal Kumar’s site is http://kohageek.blogspot.com/. The Koha-live DVD is at https://sourceforge.net/projects/kohalivedvd/files/?source=navbar. It’s not the current version, but you can upgrade it.

There are other ways, of course. You can download Ubuntu, burn it to a DVD, and start from there. My (slightly outdated) video https://youtu.be/B02ooewdQhs will take you from the Ubuntu command line to the Koha admin page. Part 2 will be out soon. See www.avengingchicken.online<http://www.avengingchicken.online> under Handbooks, manuals, etc. and www.koha-us.org<http://www.koha-us.org> under Learn for more information.

Keep at it! If I can do it, you can do it.

And now I’ll crawl under my desk and await the replies from people who think my advice is terrible.

Fred King, MSLS, AHIP
Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center
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I, for one, like Roman numerals.
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From: Ah Win <ahwin2006 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:03 AM
To: Joel Coehoorn <jcoehoorn at york.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Koha] [EXTERNAL] Re: Koha on Debian 10

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Dear Joel,

Thank you for your suggestion and we tried by installing Debian over top of it. Unfortunately, we have the power and internet cut off for the whole day. It is very difficult to make the installation work these days. After installation, we could not get user name and password screen. After the 2nd time, we got the error message please see the file.

We all are librarians and learning hard about Debian.
Thank you very much for your support.
Best regards,
Ah Win

On Mon, 6 Jun 2022 at 20:38, Coehoorn, Joel <jcoehoorn at york.edu<mailto:jcoehoorn at york.edu>> wrote:
You remove Windows by installing Debian over top of it, replacing the partition when you do it.

Joel Coehoorn
Director of Information Technology
York College of Nebraska

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 8:38 AM King, Fred <Fred.King at medstar.net<mailto:Fred.King at medstar.net>> wrote:
Sorry if someone else has replied already and I missed it. I can think of two options.

First, would your Powers that Be let you remove the hard drive and replace it with a blank one on which you could install Debian? Probably not, but maybe worth asking.

Second, you could install VirtualBox, then set up Debian and Koha on it. This may be more palatable to the Powers that Be.

Fred King, MSLS, AHIP
Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center
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I, for one, like Roman numerals.
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From: Koha <koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz<mailto:koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz>> On Behalf Of Ah Win
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2022 10:54 AM
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Cc: koha <Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz<mailto:Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Koha] Koha on Debian 10

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Dear Joel,

Thank you for your immediate response. Yes, we have requested NOT to install windows and it turned out that windows 11 was installed when we received it. Due to the windows 11 license version, we could not remove it.
It came back again and we lost hope.
Best regards,
Ah Win

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 at 21:09, Coehoorn, Joel <jcoehoorn at york.edu<mailto:jcoehoorn at york.edu>> wrote:

> Debian does not install in Windows. It  **REPLACES** Windows on
> whatever machine you use. If you start the machine and see the Windows
> logo, it's already too late to begin the Debian installation. You must
> start the installer before the operating system begins to load.
>
> Joel Coehoorn
> Director of Information Technology
> York College of Nebraska
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 9:09 AM Ah Win <ahwin2006 at gmail.com<mailto:ahwin2006 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> We are a group of librarians from Myanmar and we need help fixing the
>> problem of installing debian 9 or 10 on a PC which has windows 11. We
>> are helping one Buddhist University Library using Koha and now facing
>> the hard time to install Debian.
>> All guidance and suggestions are appreciated in advance. We are still
>> learning and I hope that we will get the h Thank you and best
>> regards, Ah Win
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 19:06, Clogher Historical Society <
>> clogherhistory at gmail.com<mailto:clogherhistory at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the replies, it seems that I need to be running Debian 9
>> > (
>> > Stretch) not version 10 (Buster)  but there is someone called: mtj
>> > on
>> IRC
>> > who is working on Debian 10.  There doesn't seem to be a downgrade
>> option
>> > in Debian so reinstalling the whole operating system is pretty
>> awkward.  I
>> > hope (MTJ) includes Debian 10 support soon.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Aindriú
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