[Koha] Handling for items lost in transit

Caroline Cyr-La-Rose caroline.cyr-la-rose at inlibro.com
Tue Nov 6 10:39:59 NZDT 2018

Hi Martin and Alex,

Here's my take on the whole thing, for what it's worth.

1) I think this is a bug and should not be switched on or off by a 
system preference.

2) The holding library should revert back to the one it was before the 

3) I'm not sure if we should erase the old transfers at upgrade. 
Personally, if I worked in a library, I'd like to have a report of lost 
items currently in transfer and decide what I want to do with them (are 
they reserved? do I have more than one copy? how long ago were they 
declared lost? etc.)

I think bugs 20844 
(https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20844) and 
21754 (https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21754) 
should continue their QA process and hopefully be added in 18.11 before 

However, I think we should discuss the handling of holds and transfers 
throughout Koha regardless of how the lost status is set. I noticed you 
mentioned batchmod, pendingreserves and longoverdue. Whatever the way an 
item was marked as lost, whether manually or a cron or a batch 
modification, the management of pending reserves, waiting reserves, 
transfers or pending transfers should not differ.

At the time it was marked as lost, if the item's status was :

- waiting reserve, this case should be handled bu 20844

- pending reserve, show an alert or have a report for problematic 
reserves. If there is more than one item, it's not a problem as the hold 
will be filled by another item; however, if the record only has one 
item, the library needs to call the user and/or request an ILL or 
whatever their process is for unfillable holds.

- currently in transit, this case should be handled by 21754. (Does this 
also handle reserves that have "T" in the "found" column? I'm guessing 
yes, but just making sure.)

- pending transfer, show an alert or have a report for problematic 
reserves, same as pending reserves.

I didn't touch on rotating collections and stock rotation as I'm not 
sure how these affect transfers.

I hope this helps your cogitation :)



Caroline Cyr La Rose, M.L.I.S.
Librarian / Head of Training and Support, inLibro

caroline.cyr-la-rose at inLibro.com <mailto:caroline.cyr-la-rose at inLibro.com>

Le 18-11-01 à 04 h 03, Renvoize, Martin a écrit :
> Hi all,
> I'm seeking some thoughts regarding 'Bug 21732 - If an item is marked as
> lost, any outstanding transfers should be cancelled
> <https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=21732>'.
> Currently, there is no thought given to transfers when an item is marked as
> lost, an as such you may have lost items in the transfers queue.  This bug
> aims to solve this by triggering a cancellation of the transfer at the
> point an item is marked as lost.
> We have a few questions:
> 1) Should this be treated as an enhancement or a bug (If it's an
> enhancement then we would enable/disable it's functionality based upon a
> system preference. If it's a bug (as I advocate), then it would be always
> enabled and no system preference would be added)
> 2) If the items is 'in transit' where should the items holding library be
> set to when it is marked as lost (the from or to library).
> 3) If we consider this a bug, should we add handling for cleaning up the
> transfers table at upgrade time for any lost items.
> Many thanks for your help,
> *Martin Renvoize*
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