[Koha] Koha Digest, Vol 158, Issue 18
Peter Lau
peter.lau at yccece.edu.hk
Thu Dec 20 14:31:39 NZDT 2018
Tks Caroline, it works for us.
Thanks & regards,
Peter Lau
Librarian
Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau at yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320
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Today's Topics:
1. Tag Cloud tab (Peter Lau)
2. Re: Tag Cloud tab (Caroline Cyr-La-Rose)
3. Re: Branches limitations for locations (Paul Poulain)
4. Re: Branches limitations for locations (Joy Nelson)
5. Re: Branches limitations for locations (Jonathan Druart)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:51:06 +0800
From: Peter Lau <peter.lau at yccece.edu.hk>
To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: [Koha] Tag Cloud tab
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What is the meaning of Tag Cloud tab, which is next to the Authority Search
tab in Koha?
After clicking the Tag Cloud tab, I can see the following:
Tags to show from other users :
Thanks & regards,
*Peter Lau*
Librarian
Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau at yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852) 23384320
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 09:17:35 -0500
From: Caroline Cyr-La-Rose <caroline.cyr-la-rose at inlibro.com>
To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: Re: [Koha] Tag Cloud tab
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Hello Peter,
Koha has a tagging function where patrons are able to add tags (or
keywords) to records in the catalog.
There are several system preferences that control the behaviour of this
functionality (see Administration > Global system preferences > Enhanced
content > Tagging) :
* TagsEnabled (this is the one you want to disable if you want to
remove the "tag cloud" link on the catalog)
* TagsExternalDictionary
* TagsInputOnDetail
* TagsInputOnList
* TagsModeration
* TagsShowOnDetail
* TagsShowOnList
Best regards,
Caroline
Caroline Cyr La Rose, M.L.I.S.
Librarian / Head of Training and Support
Phone : 1 (833) 465-4276
caroline.cyr-la-rose at inLibro.com <mailto:caroline.cyr-la-rose at inLibro.com>
inLibro | pour esprit libre | www.inLibro.com <http://www.inLibro.com> Le
18-12-19 à 03 h 51, Peter Lau a écrit :
> What is the meaning of Tag Cloud tab, which is next to the Authority
> Search tab in Koha?
>
>
>
> After clicking the Tag Cloud tab, I can see the following:
>
>
>
> Tags to show from other users :
>
>
>
> Thanks & regards,
>
> *Peter Lau*
>
> Librarian
>
> Tel: (852) 3977 9868 | Email: Peter.Lau at yccece.edu.hk | Fax: (852)
> 23384320
>
> [image:
> https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download&id=1wiYZQsqhNTJZjyNbLJx-6OD
> ZyoYE5NNu&revid=0BzpPRj4UE0XeT1R2WUt2dnhmTFBBeEpVR3dqcU5QbnF6NVg4PQ]
>
> 2 Tin Wan Hill Road, Tin Wan, Aberdeen
>
> *YCCECE, Here We Grow Our Future | *www.yccece.edu.hk
> _______________________________________________
> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 17:23:45 +0100
From: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain at biblibre.com>
To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
Subject: Re: [Koha] Branches limitations for locations
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IMHO, that's a bug (or a mistake in behavior)
When you create an item, if you create it for homebranch X, you must be able
to see location defined for branch X. It does not depends on the branch
you're connected to, it depends on the branch of the item you're cataloging.
So we should change the behavior.
Additional cases:
* libraries having a cataloger in every branch ("I catalogate for my
branch") will see no difference,
* I can't see a use case where the librarian want to enter "homebranch
= X" and "location = a location that is not supposed to exist in
branch X" !
Le 18/12/2018 à 18:35, BOUIS Sonia a écrit :
> Hello,
> It is possible in Koha to limit the locations to specific branches. This
> limitation is active when adding items and in item search.
> Currently, this limitation is linked to the branch where you are logged.
> But this behavior doesn't fit with our organization because with have a
> centralized service to add items for all branches.
> I wonder if we could change this behavior to limit the location to the
> branch selected in the home branch or the holding branch (I presume the
> holding branch is more logical?) Actually, I don't think it would be a big
> change for people that already use this functionality because, if I am not
> mistaken, when you add a new item, you're by default on the branch where
> you are logged.
> For item search, it could be disturbing to be able to choose any branches
> for home branch or holding branch, but only the location from the branch
> where you are logged. We could perhaps change to limit the location the
> branch that are selected in the search form?
>
> Any opinion?
>
> Cheers,
--
Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques BibLibre, Open
Source software and services for libraries
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 12:07:16 -0700
From: Joy Nelson <joy at bywatersolutions.com>
To: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain at biblibre.com>
Cc: Koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Koha] Branches limitations for locations
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I remember this feature from 3.12 (bugzilla 7919). We've had libraries
that have run into the same issue you have Sonia. Generally we suggest
that they add their branch (MAIN branch) to the branch limitations for all
authorised values so that they can then see those values when cataloging.
Conversely, we've had larger consortiums that set up a Technical Services
branch that the catalogers are assigned to and that branch is then added to
the list of the authorised values branch limitations.
While both of those are 'free' workarounds for the library, I can see room
for improvement in this area. I talked to our educators and developers and
thought these might make two great options to enhance this functionaliy.
1. Paul's idea to make the authorised value dropdowns change dynamically is
nice. Kyle mentioned this could be done with some javascript and an API
2. Our educators thought perhaps we should add a permission to the
cataloging area that is something like "view and choose all authorized
values". So catalogers would have this particular option selected and all
values would appear in the list for selection when creating items.
-joy
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:24 AM Paul Poulain <paul.poulain at biblibre.com>
wrote:
> IMHO, that's a bug (or a mistake in behavior)
>
> When you create an item, if you create it for homebranch X, you must be
> able to see location defined for branch X. It does not depends on the
> branch you're connected to, it depends on the branch of the item you're
> cataloging. So we should change the behavior.
>
> Additional cases:
>
> * libraries having a cataloger in every branch ("I catalogate for my
> branch") will see no difference,
> * I can't see a use case where the librarian want to enter "homebranch
> = X" and "location = a location that is not supposed to exist in
> branch X" !
>
> Le 18/12/2018 à 18:35, BOUIS Sonia a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > It is possible in Koha to limit the locations to specific branches. This
> limitation is active when adding items and in item search.
> > Currently, this limitation is linked to the branch where you are logged.
> But this behavior doesn't fit with our organization because with have a
> centralized service to add items for all branches.
> > I wonder if we could change this behavior to limit the location to the
> branch selected in the home branch or the holding branch (I presume the
> holding branch is more logical?)
> > Actually, I don't think it would be a big change for people that already
> use this functionality because, if I am not mistaken, when you add a new
> item, you're by default on the branch where you are logged.
> > For item search, it could be disturbing to be able to choose any
> branches for home branch or holding branch, but only the location from the
> branch where you are logged. We could perhaps change to limit the location
> the branch that are selected in the search form?
> >
> > Any opinion?
> >
> > Cheers,
>
> --
> Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
> BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques
> BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries
>
> _______________________________________________
> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org
> Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
>
--
Joy Nelson
Vice President of Implementations
ByWater Solutions <http://bywatersolutions.com>
Support and Consulting for Open Source Software
Phone/Fax (888)900-8944
What is Koha? <http://bywatersolutions.com/what-is-koha/>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2018 17:23:23 -0300
From: Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org>
To: Joy Nelson <joy at bywatersolutions.com>
Cc: Koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Koha] Branches limitations for locations
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The problem is bigger I think, as it impacts all AVs (as well as
patron's categories - see bug 21255).
However this specific problem could indeed be solved quite easily with
the dynamic dropdowns.
Le mer. 19 déc. 2018 à 16:07, Joy Nelson <joy at bywatersolutions.com> a écrit
:
>
> I remember this feature from 3.12 (bugzilla 7919). We've had libraries
> that have run into the same issue you have Sonia. Generally we suggest
> that they add their branch (MAIN branch) to the branch limitations for all
> authorised values so that they can then see those values when cataloging.
> Conversely, we've had larger consortiums that set up a Technical Services
> branch that the catalogers are assigned to and that branch is then added
> to
> the list of the authorised values branch limitations.
>
> While both of those are 'free' workarounds for the library, I can see room
> for improvement in this area. I talked to our educators and developers
> and
> thought these might make two great options to enhance this functionaliy.
>
> 1. Paul's idea to make the authorised value dropdowns change dynamically
> is
> nice. Kyle mentioned this could be done with some javascript and an API
>
> 2. Our educators thought perhaps we should add a permission to the
> cataloging area that is something like "view and choose all authorized
> values". So catalogers would have this particular option selected and all
> values would appear in the list for selection when creating items.
>
> -joy
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 9:24 AM Paul Poulain <paul.poulain at biblibre.com>
> wrote:
>
> > IMHO, that's a bug (or a mistake in behavior)
> >
> > When you create an item, if you create it for homebranch X, you must be
> > able to see location defined for branch X. It does not depends on the
> > branch you're connected to, it depends on the branch of the item you're
> > cataloging. So we should change the behavior.
> >
> > Additional cases:
> >
> > * libraries having a cataloger in every branch ("I catalogate for my
> > branch") will see no difference,
> > * I can't see a use case where the librarian want to enter "homebranch
> > = X" and "location = a location that is not supposed to exist in
> > branch X" !
> >
> > Le 18/12/2018 à 18:35, BOUIS Sonia a écrit :
> > > Hello,
> > > It is possible in Koha to limit the locations to specific branches.
> > > This
> > limitation is active when adding items and in item search.
> > > Currently, this limitation is linked to the branch where you are
> > > logged.
> > But this behavior doesn't fit with our organization because with have a
> > centralized service to add items for all branches.
> > > I wonder if we could change this behavior to limit the location to the
> > branch selected in the home branch or the holding branch (I presume the
> > holding branch is more logical?)
> > > Actually, I don't think it would be a big change for people that
> > > already
> > use this functionality because, if I am not mistaken, when you add a new
> > item, you're by default on the branch where you are logged.
> > > For item search, it could be disturbing to be able to choose any
> > branches for home branch or holding branch, but only the location from
> > the
> > branch where you are logged. We could perhaps change to limit the
> > location
> > the branch that are selected in the search form?
> > >
> > > Any opinion?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Paul Poulain, Associé-gérant / co-owner
> > BibLibre, Services en logiciels libres pour les bibliothèques
> > BibLibre, Open Source software and services for libraries
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org
> > Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> > https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
> >
>
>
> --
> Joy Nelson
> Vice President of Implementations
>
> ByWater Solutions <http://bywatersolutions.com>
> Support and Consulting for Open Source Software
> Phone/Fax (888)900-8944
> What is Koha? <http://bywatersolutions.com/what-is-koha/>
> _______________________________________________
> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org
> Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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