[Koha] [ByWater Partners] [Koha North America] Your suggestions for a new name of Koha NA

[Stebbings, Wade]

I agree, the frequency of face-to-face meetings can be reduced if it’s too
expensive. However, there is nothing like the serendipity offered by a
face-to-face meeting or conference. And maybe that luxury is something
done infrequently, or maybe with regional chapters.

But I go back to what I said previously: what problem are we trying to
solve?

If it’s about cost, then this new line of discussion has value.

—wade

On 12/21/15, 11:37 AM, "Francis Devadason" <Francis.Devadason at doc.ks.gov>
wrote:

>Why do we have to travel? We can have online conferencing.
>
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>From: Koha [mailto:koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of
>Stebbings, Wade
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>To: Owen Leonard; Koha
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>Subject: Re: [Koha] [ByWater Partners] [Koha North America] Your
>suggestions for a new name of Koha NA
>
>Owen,
>
>Christopher said ³for many, travel outside of the U.S. Is prohibited,²
>which sounds more like travel constraints due to policy reasons, not due
>to cost. If we¹re really talking about cost-optimization, then the focus
>on contiguous-US is misplaced: cost has more to do with location than
>distance, some locations are simply much higher cost to stay. For
>example, my recent conference trip to Chicago (c. 400 miles), flying and
>driving were close to the same cost, but the cost of accommodations by
>far exceeded everything else. Chicago is expensive, New York is
>expensive, San Francisco is expensive, Winnipeg is not. It has nothing to
>do with political boundaries. The majority of Canadian population lives
>relatively close to the Canadian-US border, Edmonton being the most
>egregious outlier.
>
>Agreed, we need to step back and rethink, What problem are we trying to
>solve? ŒHot water¹ doesn¹t say much.
>
>If that answer drives the shape and expanse of the organization, or
>chapter, then fine. But not until that is decided do we name something.
>It is now obvious to me the exercise of naming something is way too
>premature.
>
>‹wade
>
>On 12/21/15, 8:02 AM, "partners-bounces at bywatersolutions.com on behalf of
>Owen Leonard" <partners-bounces at bywatersolutions.com on behalf of
>oleonard at myacpl.org> wrote:
>
>>I think everyone needs to pause and reflect on what the goal of this
>>process is, because we seem to be continuing to dig this hole deeper
>>instead of climbing out.
>>
>>> all face-to-face meetings will be
>>> held within the contiguous U.S. to ensure that U.S. Koha users have a
>>> better chance to attend them (for many, travel outside of the U.S. is
>>> prohibited).
>>
>>The goal of this process is to define the terms of a Koha user group
>>which meets within the contiguous United States. This narrow definition
>>is of the location of the meetings, not of those who are welcome in the
>>group.
>>
>>This rule about meeting locations is not made in order to be
>>exclusionary, but in order to create more opportunities for U.S.
>>members to participate. The United States is big, travel is expensive,
>>and libraries don't like to spend money.
>>
>>I would encourage everyone to make suggestions which don't have "North
>>America" or "America" as a basis. Both terms include areas which are
>>outside the contiguous United States and thus explicitly excluded.
>>Take a look at the maps:
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
>>
>>Terms like "North America" and "America" are WHY we're hot water in the
>>first place.
>>
>> -- Owen
>>
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