[Koha] Problem in importing Patron Records
Sunil Kumar
sunil.kumar at ecoleglobal.com
Thu Nov 22 17:36:58 NZDT 2012
Dear Elaine
Can you share the patron excel file and also check the under system
configuration "BorrowerMandatoryField" which are the fields mandatory, for
uploading purpose you can remove those mandatory fields and try uploading
the patron records. Regarding the borrowernumber, What i used to do is
manually enter the borrowernumber (use the excel feature of auto numbering).
Line 2 Critical field "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname:
UNDEF). > If Surname is mandatory field and any one row is missing the
surname data, Koha will show error.
Line 2 Critical field "branchcode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname:
UNDEF). - check the branchcode in the .CSV file and the branchcode you have
defined in Koha, if both are not matching it will show error or if .CSV have
a new branch code it will again show you error.
Line 2 Critical field "categorycode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF;
surname: UNDEF). = same as branchcode error - you have not defined the
catagorycode in the Koha setting.
Thanks and Regards
R Sunil Kumar
Library Technologist
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1. Re: Problem in importing Patron Records (Elaine Bradtke)
2. Re: Problem in importing Patron Records (Elaine Bradtke)
3. Re: [Koha-devel] ldap / uid (Travis Elliott Davis)
4. Re: Problem in importing Patron Records (Elaine Bradtke)
5. Re: Problem in importing Patron Records (Elaine Bradtke)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:22:18 +0000
From: Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org>
To: Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "koha at lists.katipo.co.nz" <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Koha] Problem in importing Patron Records
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Are you saying there should be quotes around the fields?
Because I'm getting similar failures and the fields are there, but it's not
seeing them.
Elaine
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> First, i have problem with this, too. I downloaded original file
patron_import.csv, opened it with Libreoffice Calc, watched table borrowers
in database by Phpmyadmin. Then i tried to fill all file with the similar
values as what i did before (add patron manual). Next i saved file as .csv
file, and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical field
"surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"...
> Next i tried to change fomats all fields in their fomats (text,
> number, date), esspecially date YYY-MM-DD. Then i saved file as .csv file,
and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical field
"surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"... (same error)
> I saved .csv file as .ods file, and tried import, once more time fail.
>
> Last time, maybe i was lucky, i use that.ods file, saved as .csv file,
then i received a message:
>
> Export text file...
>
> field delimiter ,
> text delimiter "
> I press Ok, then saved. And i imported patrons without error.
> I don't understand it very clear, but just wanna share experience. Hope it
can help someone else.
> _______________________________________________
> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
--
Elaine Bradtke
Data Wrangler
VWML
English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registered Company No. 297142
Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
--Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 20:30:42 +0000
From: Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org>
To: Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "koha at lists.katipo.co.nz" <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Koha] Problem in importing Patron Records
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Here's what I'm getting (in 3.08.05):
Feedback:
Parsing upload file Patron upload test2.csv
Content-Type : application/octet-stream
Content-Disposition : form-data; name="uploadborrowers";
filename="Patron upload test2.csv"
headerrow : CARDNUMBER, SURNAME, FIRSTNAME, TITLE, INITIALS, ADDRESS,
ADDRESS2, CITY, ZIPCODE, COUNTRY, EMAIL, PHONE, BRANCHCODE,
CATEGORYCODE, DATEEXPIRY
Error analysis:
Line 2 Critical field "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname:
UNDEF).
Line 2 Critical field "branchcode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF;
surname: UNDEF).
Line 2 Critical field "categorycode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF;
surname: UNDEF).
It's all there.
Is Koha expecting the fields in a particular order? I'm supplying the
header row (above). But it's not connecting the two somehow. I have
tried with and without quotes around the fields, neither seems to
work.
Elaine
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org> wrote:
> Are you saying there should be quotes around the fields?
> Because I'm getting similar failures and the fields are there, but
> it's not seeing them.
> Elaine
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>> First, i have problem with this, too. I downloaded original file
patron_import.csv, opened it with Libreoffice Calc, watched table borrowers
in database by Phpmyadmin. Then i tried to fill all file with the similar
values as what i did before (add patron manual). Next i saved file as .csv
file, and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical field
"surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"...
>> Next i tried to change fomats all fields in their fomats (text,
number, date), esspecially date YYY-MM-DD. Then i saved file as .csv file,
and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical field
>> "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"... (same
error)
>> I saved .csv file as .ods file, and tried import, once more time
fail.
>>
>> Last time, maybe i was lucky, i use that.ods file, saved as .csv
file, then i received a message:
>>
>> Export text file...
>>
>> field delimiter ,
>> text delimiter "
>> I press Ok, then saved. And i imported patrons without error.
>> I don't understand it very clear, but just wanna share experience. Hope
it can help someone else.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org
>> Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
>> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
>
>
>
> --
> Elaine Bradtke
> Data Wrangler
> VWML
> English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
> Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
> Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
> and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
> personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Registered Company No. 297142
> Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
> --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
--
Elaine Bradtke
Data Wrangler
VWML
English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registered Company No. 297142
Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
--Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:49:20 -0600
From: Travis Elliott Davis <elliott at bywatersolutions.com>
To: Samuel Desseaux <samuel.desseaux at ecp.fr>
Cc: Koha Devel <koha-devel at lists.koha-community.org>,
"Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz" <Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Koha] [Koha-devel] ldap / uid
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Samuel,
If you want to map the userid field in Koha to "SupannAliasLogin" from your
ldap configuration simply change <userid is="uid"></userid> to <userid
is="SupannAliasLogin"></userid>.
If you are asking how to bind on SupannAliasLogin you should be able to
perform the step above and in the principal name field just enter %s and
nothing else. That will try and bind on the username without joining any
other strings.
Best,
Travis Elliott Davis
Development Support Specialist
903.571.4257
Elliott at ByWaterSolutions.com
On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:34 AM, Samuel Desseaux <samuel.desseaux at ecp.fr> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've a technical question about ldap.
>
> My connexion with the ldap is enabled. The mapping is correct but we would
like to use "SupannAliasLogin" instead of "uid".
> Why? Our uid is like this [year of entry in the school]+supannAliasLogin
>
> example:2012desseauxs
>
> 2012:year of entry in the school
> desseauxs:SupannAliasLogin
>
>
> I don't know how to do and i i have to change the principal name
>
> Actually, we have the following configuration
>
> <ldapserver id="ldapserver" listenref="ldapserver">
> <hostname>*******</hostname>
> <base>ou=people,dc=ecp,dc=fr</base>
> <user>cn=syncrepl,ou=applications,dc=ecp,dc=fr</user>
> <pass>******</pass>
> <replicate>1</replicate>
> <update>1</update>
> <auth_by_bind>1</auth_by_bind>
> <principal_name>uid=%s,ou=people,dc=ecp,dc=fr</principal_name>
> <mapping>
> <firstname is="givenname"></firstname>
> <surname is="sn"></surname>
> <address is="">Ecole Centrale Paris</address>
> <city is="">Chatenay-Malabry</city>
> <zipcode is="">92290</zipcode>
> <branchcode is="">ECAM</branchcode>
> <userid is="uid"></userid>
> <password is="userpassword"></password>
> <cardnumber is="ecpbadgenumber"></cardnumber>
> <email is="mail"></email>
> <categorycode is="supannetudiplome">employee</categorycode>
> <phone is="telephonenumber">903-566-7654</phone>
> <dateenrolled is="">2012-09-01</dateenrolled>
> <dateexpiry is="">2013-09-01</dateexpiry>
> </mapping>
> </ldapserver>
>
>
> Many thanks
>
> samuel
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:06:23 +0000
From: Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org>
To: Uy nguy?n qu?c <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
Cc: koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Koha] Problem in importing Patron Records
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I have to set up a system to convert information from our membership
list into patron files on a monthly basis to catch expired
memberships. I run the file through a database called Cardbox for
batch editing. Cardbox exports have never cause any problems with csv
formatting before.
As an experiment, I ran the Cardbox csv file through (an old version
of) excel and exported a new csv file. But it didn't help, and in
fact broke the date formatting (deleting the zero padding).
We are using the same date format as is set in our system preferences
(dd/mm/yyyy). For some patrons there is no expiration date (life
members). Would this be a problem - are expiration dates required?
Must I convert it to yyyy-mm-dd ? (the notes on patron import seem to
imply it's OK to use your specified date format).
Elaine
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Uy nguy?n qu?c
<nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> So u have the same error as i had. I'm using Koha on Ubuntu. If u try to
open file with excel in windows, then save file as .csv, then import, i
think there is no error more. If u use in ubuntu, or debian, should follow
what i said before. Open .csv file with Libre Calc (it may ask for default-
seperated by semicolon and comma, choose those values), then fill it, save
as .ods file, then open .ods file, save as new .csv file. U can import this
.csv file. Good luck
> On 22 Nov 2012, at 00:30, Elaine Bradtke wrote:
>
>> Here's what I'm getting (in 3.08.05):
>> Feedback:
>>
>> Parsing upload file Patron upload test2.csv
>> Content-Type : application/octet-stream
>> Content-Disposition : form-data; name="uploadborrowers";
>> filename="Patron upload test2.csv"
>> headerrow : CARDNUMBER, SURNAME, FIRSTNAME, TITLE, INITIALS, ADDRESS,
>> ADDRESS2, CITY, ZIPCODE, COUNTRY, EMAIL, PHONE, BRANCHCODE,
>> CATEGORYCODE, DATEEXPIRY
>>
>>
>> Error analysis:
>>
>> Line 2 Critical field "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname:
UNDEF).
>> Line 2 Critical field "branchcode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF;
>> surname: UNDEF).
>> Line 2 Critical field "categorycode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF;
>> surname: UNDEF).
>>
>> It's all there.
>> Is Koha expecting the fields in a particular order? I'm supplying the
>> header row (above). But it's not connecting the two somehow. I have
>> tried with and without quotes around the fields, neither seems to
>> work.
>> Elaine
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org> wrote:
>>> Are you saying there should be quotes around the fields?
>>> Because I'm getting similar failures and the fields are there, but
>>> it's not seeing them.
>>> Elaine
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>>>> First, i have problem with this, too. I downloaded original file
patron_import.csv, opened it with Libreoffice Calc, watched table borrowers
in database by Phpmyadmin. Then i tried to fill all file with the similar
values as what i did before (add patron manual). Next i saved file as .csv
file, and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical field
"surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"...
>>>> Next i tried to change fomats all fields in their fomats (text,
number, date), esspecially date YYY-MM-DD. Then i saved file as .csv file,
and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical field
>>>> "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"... (same
error)
>>>> I saved .csv file as .ods file, and tried import, once more time
fail.
>>>>
>>>> Last time, maybe i was lucky, i use that.ods file, saved as .csv
file, then i received a message:
>>>>
>>>> Export text file...
>>>>
>>>> field delimiter ,
>>>> text delimiter "
>>>> I press Ok, then saved. And i imported patrons without error.
>>>> I don't understand it very clear, but just wanna share experience. Hope
it can help someone else.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org
>>>> Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
>>>> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Elaine Bradtke
>>> Data Wrangler
>>> VWML
>>> English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
>>> Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
>>> Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
>>> and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
>>> personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
>>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Registered Company No. 297142
>>> Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
>>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
>>> --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Elaine Bradtke
>> Data Wrangler
>> VWML
>> English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
>> Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
>> Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
>> and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
>> personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Registered Company No. 297142
>> Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
>> --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
>
--
Elaine Bradtke
Data Wrangler
VWML
English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registered Company No. 297142
Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
--Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 22:51:55 +0000
From: Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org>
To: Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
Cc: koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Koha] Problem in importing Patron Records
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I changed the date format to YYYY-MM-DD
I also added a date to the patron records that didn't have them.
I saved it as an ods file, and then closed it opened it and saved it as csv.
None of these things worked. Same error messages.
Elaine
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Better give it a try. Do exactly as i say. Maybe change fotmat YYY-MM-DD.
> Because u have same error as i did.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org>
> To: Uy nguy?n qu?c <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: koha <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Koha] Problem in importing Patron Records
>
> I have to set up a system to convert information from our membership
> list into patron files on a monthly basis to catch expired
> memberships. I run the file through a database called Cardbox for
> batch editing. Cardbox exports have never cause any problems with csv
> formatting before.
> As an experiment, I ran the Cardbox csv file through (an old version
> of) excel and exported a new csv file. But it didn't help, and in
> fact broke the date formatting (deleting the zero padding).
>
> We are using the same date format as is set in our system preferences
> (dd/mm/yyyy). For some patrons there is no expiration date (life
> members). Would this be a problem - are expiration dates required?
> Must I convert it to yyyy-mm-dd ? (the notes on patron import seem to
> imply it's OK to use your specified date format).
> Elaine
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Uy nguy?n qu?c
> <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> So u have the same error as i had. I'm using Koha on Ubuntu. If u try to
>> open file with excel in windows, then save file as .csv, then import, i
>> think there is no error more. If u use in ubuntu, or debian, should
follow
>> what i said before. Open .csv file with Libre Calc (it may ask for
default-
>> seperated by semicolon and comma, choose those values), then fill it,
save
>> as .ods file, then open .ods file, save as new .csv file. U can import
this
>> .csv file. Good luck
>> On 22 Nov 2012, at 00:30, Elaine Bradtke wrote:
>>
>>> Here's what I'm getting (in 3.08.05):
>>> Feedback:
>>>
>>> Parsing upload file Patron upload test2.csv
>>> Content-Type : application/octet-stream
>>> Content-Disposition : form-data; name="uploadborrowers";
>>> filename="Patron upload test2.csv"
>>> headerrow : CARDNUMBER, SURNAME, FIRSTNAME, TITLE, INITIALS, ADDRESS,
>>> ADDRESS2, CITY, ZIPCODE, COUNTRY, EMAIL, PHONE, BRANCHCODE,
>>> CATEGORYCODE, DATEEXPIRY
>>>
>>>
>>> Error analysis:
>>>
>>> Line 2 Critical field "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname:
>>> UNDEF).
>>> Line 2 Critical field "branchcode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF;
>>> surname: UNDEF).
>>> Line 2 Critical field "categorycode" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF;
>>> surname: UNDEF).
>>>
>>> It's all there.
>>> Is Koha expecting the fields in a particular order? I'm supplying the
>>> header row (above). But it's not connecting the two somehow. I have
>>> tried with and without quotes around the fields, neither seems to
>>> work.
>>> Elaine
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Elaine Bradtke <eb at efdss.org> wrote:
>>>> Are you saying there should be quotes around the fields?
>>>> Because I'm getting similar failures and the fields are there, but
>>>> it's not seeing them.
>>>> Elaine
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Quoc Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> First, i have problem with this, too. I downloaded original file
>>>>> patron_import.csv, opened it with Libreoffice Calc, watched table
borrowers
>>>>> in database by Phpmyadmin. Then i tried to fill all file with the
similar
>>>>> values as what i did before (add patron manual). Next i saved file as
.csv
>>>>> file, and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical
field
>>>>> "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"...
>>>>> Next i tried to change fomats all fields in their fomats (text,
>>>>> number, date), esspecially date YYY-MM-DD. Then i saved file as .csv
file,
>>>>> and tried import patron. I failed with message: "Line 2 Critical field
>>>>> "surname" missing (borrowernumber: UNDEF; surname: UNDEF)"... (same
>>>>> error)
>>>>> I saved .csv file as .ods file, and tried import, once more time
>>>>> fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last time, maybe i was lucky, i use that.ods file, saved as .csv
>>>>> file, then i received a message:
>>>>>
>>>>> Export text file...
>>>>>
>>>>> field delimiter ,
>>>>> text delimiter "
>>>>> I press Ok, then saved. And i imported patrons without error.
>>>>> I don't understand it very clear, but just wanna share experience.
Hope
>>>>> it can help someone else.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org
>>>>> Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
>>>>> http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Elaine Bradtke
>>>> Data Wrangler
>>>> VWML
>>>> English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
>>>> Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
>>>> Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
>>>> and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
>>>> personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
>>>>
>>>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Registered Company No. 297142
>>>> Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
>>>>
>>>>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
>>>> --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Elaine Bradtke
>>> Data Wrangler
>>> VWML
>>> English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
>>> Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
>>> Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
>>> and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
>>> personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
>>>
>>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Registered Company No. 297142
>>> Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
>>>
>>>
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>>> "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
>>> --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Elaine Bradtke
> Data Wrangler
> VWML
> English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
> Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
> Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
> and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
> personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Registered Company No. 297142
> Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
>
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> "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
> --Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
>
>
--
Elaine Bradtke
Data Wrangler
VWML
English Folk Dance and Song Society | http://www.efdss.org
Cecil Sharp House, 2 Regent's Park Road, London NW1 7AY
Tel +44 (0) 20 7485 2206 (This number is for the English Folk Dance
and Song Society in London, England. If you wish to phone me
personally, send an e-mail first. I work off site)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registered Company No. 297142
Charity Registered in England and Wales No. 305999
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"Writing about music is like dancing about architecture"
--Elvis Costello (Musician magazine No. 60 (October 1983), p. 52)
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