[Koha] koha 3.2.1 search more than one word
massoud alshareef
massoud at kwareict.com
Wed Dec 22 06:26:44 NZDT 2010
Hello,
Yes we have the ICU enabled. Today we found a solution though. The problem
is solved when we we changed the default value "automatically" set for the
System Preferences / Searching Preference / QueryAutoTruncate to "Only if *
is added" instead.
By the way, Zebra truncation support for non-English languages is a show
stopper; tell you the truth I look forward for the day when Koha switches
its Full-Text Search engine to Solr in place of Zebra. Walter McGinnis from
Katipo will tell you how Zebra poor handing of multi-lingual truncation had
made a big disadvantgae for Kete to be used by non-english content users
because of the lack of searching support in their native language. It surely
did for us.
Massoud M. AlShareef,
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On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, <koha-request at lists.katipo.co.nz> wrote:
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> 1. YouTube Koha ILS Group (Nicole Engard)
> 2. Re: koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> (Fischer, Katrin)
> 3. Re: How to catalogue related items? (Mirko)
> 4. Re: koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu (Colin Campbell)
> 5. How to catalogue related items? (Mirko)
> 6. Re: How to catalogue related items? (Mirko)
> 7. Re: koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> (LAURENT Henri-Damien)
> 8. Re: koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> (Fischer, Katrin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:58:25 -0600
> From: Nicole Engard <nengard at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Koha] YouTube Koha ILS Group
> To: Koha <Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
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> So it turns out that YouTube has turned off groups :( All my work to
> compile the 60+ Koha videos on the YouTube down the drain. Just FYI
> so you can update your bookmarks and links. More info here:
> http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?answer=1070535
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> Nicole
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:41:53 +0100
> From: "Fischer, Katrin" <Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de>
> Subject: Re: [Koha] koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> To: "Abdulsalam Yousef" <ayousef at kwareict.com>
> Cc: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> I see the same behavior in our 3.2.1 installation with ICU indexing.
>
>
>
> A quick search for 'religion' gives me a normal result list.
>
> When I pick an additional word from the result list and add it to my
> search term, like 'religion geschichte' I don't get any results.
>
>
>
> The same query in our 3.01.00.061 installation with ICU indexing works
> without problems.
>
>
>
> We are trying to find the problem. Please share if you already found a
> solution.
>
>
>
> Katrin
>
>
>
>
>
> From: koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz
> <mailto:koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz>
> [mailto:koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz]
> <mailto:[mailto:koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz]> On Behalf Of
> Abdulsalam Yousef
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 2:43 PM
> To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz <mailto:koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
> Subject: [Koha] koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
>
>
>
> hello all
> we have a problem here when searching at more than one word
> like (the children) koha give us no result found
> are there any suggessions???
> thanks alot
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> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:23:17 +0100
> From: Mirko <5p4m at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Koha] How to catalogue related items?
> To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
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> Mirko schrieb am Di 21 Dez 2010 16:05:51 CET:
> > I have a "sorry-i'm-not-a-librarian"-question:
>
> [?]
>
> > Somehow this seems to be the wrong way to do it:
> >
> > - I can only have one item type (for the biblio, not for the item)
> > -- but i want patrons to be able to find for example the cds if they
> > search for audio materials -- so this seems wrong
> >
>
> Oops, this is incorrect. Of course I can specify an item type per
> item. Sorry about that. So in theory this seems like the way to go?
> but how do I make the "Materials specified (bound volume or other
> part)" column visible in the OPAC's biblio page? And why is the
> location field empty when it is not in the staff client?
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:30:36 +0000
> From: Colin Campbell <colin.campbell at ptfs-europe.com>
> Subject: Re: [Koha] koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> Message-ID: <4D10C81C.2010904 at ptfs-europe.com>
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> On 21/12/10 13:41, Fischer, Katrin wrote:
>
> > I see the same behavior in our 3.2.1 installation with ICU indexing.
> >
> >
> >
> > A quick search for 'religion' gives me a normal result list.
> >
> > When I pick an additional word from the result list and add it to my
> > search term, like 'religion geschichte' I don't get any results.
> >
> >
> >
> > The same query in our 3.01.00.061 installation with ICU indexing works
> > without problems.
> >
> >
> >
> > We are trying to find the problem. Please share if you already found a
> > solution.
> >
> There are a few fixes in master and in the 3.2.x for C4/Search.pm which
> may be relevant. A quick test using 3.2.x's current HEAD appears to have
> the correct behaviour.
>
> Colin
>
>
> --
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> Chief Software Engineer,
> PTFS Europe Limited
> Content Management and Library Solutions
> +44 (0) 845 557 5634 (phone)
> +44 (0) 7759 633626 (mobile)
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:05:51 +0100
> From: Mirko <5p4m at gmx.de>
> Subject: [Koha] How to catalogue related items?
> To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> Message-ID: <4D10C24F.5050500 at gmx.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I have a "sorry-i'm-not-a-librarian"-question:
>
> How do I catalogue several items that belong together? For example:
> I have a series for language learning: one workbook, one grammar and
> two audio cds. They are not a single kit containing all items but
> have seperate call numbers and can be used/checked out independently
> of each other. Nonetheless they are related and this information
> needs to be available to the patron.
>
> I thought I would set up a biblio containing the general information
> (title, author etc.) and have items for workbook, grammar, cds with
> their respective call number/barcode.
>
> Somehow this seems to be the wrong way to do it:
>
> - I can only have one item type (for the biblio, not for the item)
> -- but i want patrons to be able to find for example the cds if they
> search for audio materials -- so this seems wrong
>
> - I used "Materials specified (bound volume or other part)" to put
> "CD 1", "CD 2", "Workbook"? but that information only shows up in
> the staff client. When searching the OPAC I don't get this info,
> neither can I do anything with the items of the biblio (like, place
> a hold), I can only look up "Item type", "Call number" and "Status".
> There is also a field "Location", but it is empty (it is filled in
> the staff client).
>
> What is the correct way to catalogue several different items that
> somehow belong together? If I have to make a seperate biblio for
> each item, how do I connect them? Patrons should be able to see that
> (for example) there are also audio cds when they see the record for
> the books (etc.).
>
> I hope it is clear what I'm trying to do, any help is appreciated.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 16:32:13 +0100
> From: Mirko <5p4m at gmx.de>
> Subject: Re: [Koha] How to catalogue related items?
> To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> Message-ID: <4D10C87D.2040300 at gmx.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> I don't know what happened, but somehow my first email did not reach
> the list, only the follow-up.
>
> I sent this before:
>
> Mirko schrieb am Di 21 Dez 2010 16:05:51 CET:
> > I have a "sorry-i'm-not-a-librarian"-question:
> >
> > How do I catalogue several items that belong together? For example:
> > I have a series for language learning: one workbook, one grammar and
> > two audio cds. They are not a single kit containing all items but
> > have seperate call numbers and can be used/checked out independently
> > of each other. Nonetheless they are related and this information
> > needs to be available to the patron.
> >
> > I thought I would set up a biblio containing the general information
> > (title, author etc.) and have items for workbook, grammar, cds with
> > their respective call number/barcode.
> >
> > Somehow this seems to be the wrong way to do it:
>
> [cut out wrong statement]
>
> > - I used "Materials specified (bound volume or other part)" to put
> > "CD 1", "CD 2", "Workbook"? but that information only shows up in
> > the staff client. When searching the OPAC I don't get this info,
> > neither can I do anything with the items of the biblio (like, place
> > a hold), I can only look up "Item type", "Call number" and "Status".
> > There is also a field "Location", but it is empty (it is filled in
> > the staff client).
> >
> > What is the correct way to catalogue several different items that
> > somehow belong together? If I have to make a seperate biblio for
> > each item, how do I connect them? Patrons should be able to see that
> > (for example) there are also audio cds when they see the record for
> > the books (etc.).
> >
> > I hope it is clear what I'm trying to do, any help is appreciated.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 17:00:40 +0100
> From: LAURENT Henri-Damien <henridamien.laurent at biblibre.com>
> Subject: Re: [Koha] koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> Message-ID: <4D10CF28.7000805 at biblibre.com>
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>
> Le 21/12/2010 16:30, Colin Campbell a ?crit :
> > On 21/12/10 13:41, Fischer, Katrin wrote:
> >
> >> I see the same behavior in our 3.2.1 installation with ICU indexing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> A quick search for 'religion' gives me a normal result list.
> >>
> >> When I pick an additional word from the result list and add it to my
> >> search term, like 'religion geschichte' I don't get any results.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The same query in our 3.01.00.061 installation with ICU indexing works
> >> without problems.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We are trying to find the problem. Please share if you already found a
> >> solution.
> >>
> > There are a few fixes in master and in the 3.2.x for C4/Search.pm which
> > may be relevant. A quick test using 3.2.x's current HEAD appears to have
> > the correct behaviour.
> >
> > Colin
> >
> >
> Hi Colin,
> do you have icu enabled ?
> It seems that that problem occurs only with icu enabled.
> This commit 34b4ac9ddc34430f43520c12d3cb206d18c4be62 on
> koha-biblibre.git fixes that. (Katrin Fischer may confirm)
> Hope that helps.
> --
> Henri-Damien LAURENT
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 17:17:58 +0100
> From: "Fischer, Katrin" <Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de>
> Subject: Re: [Koha] koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> To: "LAURENT Henri-Damien" <henridamien.laurent at biblibre.com>,
> <koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>
> Message-ID:
> <028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFDEAB17D at Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I can confirm that the patch solved the described problem in 3.2.1 - But I
> want to test a bit more to make sure (searching with Hebrew, Advanced Search
> and reactivating some of the search system preferences)
>
> And we should probably test our current setup with HEAD/3.2.2 too.
>
> Katrin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-
> > bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of LAURENT Henri-Damien
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 5:01 PM
> > To: koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> > Subject: Re: [Koha] koha 3.2.1 search more than one word with icu
> >
> > Le 21/12/2010 16:30, Colin Campbell a ?crit :
> > > On 21/12/10 13:41, Fischer, Katrin wrote:
> > >
> > >> I see the same behavior in our 3.2.1 installation with ICU indexing.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> A quick search for 'religion' gives me a normal result list.
> > >>
> > >> When I pick an additional word from the result list and add it to my
> > >> search term, like 'religion geschichte' I don't get any results.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The same query in our 3.01.00.061 installation with ICU indexing
> > works
> > >> without problems.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> We are trying to find the problem. Please share if you already found
> > a
> > >> solution.
> > >>
> > > There are a few fixes in master and in the 3.2.x for C4/Search.pm
> > which
> > > may be relevant. A quick test using 3.2.x's current HEAD appears to
> > have
> > > the correct behaviour.
> > >
> > > Colin
> > >
> > >
> > Hi Colin,
> > do you have icu enabled ?
> > It seems that that problem occurs only with icu enabled.
> > This commit 34b4ac9ddc34430f43520c12d3cb206d18c4be62 on
> > koha-biblibre.git fixes that. (Katrin Fischer may confirm)
> > Hope that helps.
> > --
> > Henri-Damien LAURENT
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