[Koha] AmazonContent-- Hit and Miss?
Joshua Ferraro
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Sat Aug 23 03:59:56 NZST 2008
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Nicole Engard
<nicole.engard at liblime.com> wrote:
> I'd submit it as a bug.
Hang on, how can that be a bug? :-) Is it an amazon.com bug or a Koha one?
Josh
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> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Max Crowe <newdurhamlibrary at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ata:
>>
>> That's it exactly! The 10 digit ISBN number has to be present, and first.
>> The 13 digits don't work at all.
>>
>> Thanks, everyone. At least I know how to proceed at this point to get my
>> new items connecting with Amazon. But I wonder, might this be considered a
>> bug? The plan, is, after all, to phase out ISBN-10...
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Ata ur Rehman <ata.rehman at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think the problem is in ISBN13 (9780743290111). I tried different
>>> options. Here are the results:
>>>
>>> 1- Only ISBN13 (9780743290111) --> No Image and Review
>>> 2- Only ISBN10 (0743290119) --> Image and Reviews displayed
>>> 3- Both ISBN 13 and 10 (Same order, First 13 and 2nd 10) -- No Image and
>>> Review
>>> 4- Both ISBN 10 and 13 (Same order, First 10 and 2nd 13) -- Image and
>>> Reviews displayed
>>>
>>> (Note: I am using Koha 228 on Windows, not 3 :) )
>>>
>>> Ata
>>> LISolutions.org
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:08 AM, Max Crowe <newdurhamlibrary at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for everyone's help on this issue, although I'm still struggling
>>>> to figure out what's actually happening. To respond to questions and
>>>> suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> 1) I am entering the ISBN without any hyphens or spaces.
>>>>
>>>> 2) We are talking about books for which the ISBN shouldn't have been
>>>> reissued.
>>>>
>>>> Let's take the book "Chasing Harry Winston" by Lauren Weisberger, for
>>>> example. Below is the MARC record in our catalog:
>>>>
>>>> LDR 01080cam a22002894a 4500
>>>> 001 2008006696
>>>> 003 DLC
>>>> 005 20080807154700.0
>>>> 008 080214s2008 nyu 000 1 eng
>>>> 010 _a 2008006696
>>>> 020 _a9780743290111 :
>>>> _c$25.95
>>>> 020 _a0743290119 :
>>>> _c$25.95
>>>> 035 _a(NjBwBT)bt2008012287
>>>> 040 _aDLC
>>>> _cDLC
>>>> _dDLC
>>>> _dNjBwBT
>>>> 043 _an-us-ny
>>>> 069 _a09912362
>>>> 082 14 _aFIC
>>>> _214
>>>> 090 _aF WEI
>>>> 100 1 _aWeisberger, Lauren,
>>>> _d1977-
>>>> 245 10 _aChasing Harry Winston /
>>>> _cLauren Weisberger.
>>>> 260 _aNew York :
>>>> _bSimon & Schuster,
>>>> _cc2008.
>>>> 300 _a280 p. ;
>>>> _c25 cm.
>>>> 520 _aMaking a pact that they will change the things that most challenge
>>>> them within a year's time, Manhattan friends Emmy, Leigh, and Adriana shed
>>>> their downtrodden identities in order to pursue the high life.
>>>> 852 1 _hF WEI
>>>> _p34710000092498
>>>> _808132008
>>>> _9P25.95usd
>>>> 935 _a08122008
>>>> 999 _c11785
>>>> _d11785
>>>> 952 _w2008-08-20
>>>> _p34710000092498
>>>> _r2008-08-20
>>>> _40
>>>> _00
>>>> _6F_WEI
>>>> _911817
>>>> _bNDPL
>>>> _10
>>>> _oF WEI
>>>> _d2008-08-20
>>>> _8FIC
>>>> _70
>>>> _c5
>>>> _2ddc
>>>> _yBOOK
>>>> _aNDPL
>>>>
>>>> Which does not retrieve an Amazon image or review. Of course, Amazon has
>>>> all this info. You can see it all at the page:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Harry-Winston-Lauren-Weisberger/dp/0743290119/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219350647&sr=8-1
>>>>
>>>> And if you look at the revelent portion of the page--
>>>>
>>>> Product Details
>>>> Hardcover: 288 pages
>>>> Publisher: Simon & Schuster (May 27, 2008)
>>>> Language: English
>>>> ISBN-10: 0743290119
>>>> ISBN-13: 978-0743290111
>>>> Product Dimensions: 9.4 x 6.1 x 1.1 inches
>>>>
>>>> --you can see that Amazon has the same ISBN numbers that I do! This is a
>>>> book that came out in late May-- so I can't imagine what's going on here.
>>>> Why are some of my items correctly interfacing with Amazon, while others
>>>> aren't? I've honestly been pouring over MARC records trying to figure out
>>>> the "magic" difference between books that retrieve hits on Amazon, and books
>>>> that don't. But I'm stumped-- what am I missing?
>>>>
>>>> And are other libraries having similar issues, here? Or is it just me?
>>>>
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Joe Atzberger <ohiocore at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Amazon images are retrieved by ISBN, so you might want to check your
>>>>> ISBNs against the hits you get at Amazon. With older items, the likelihood
>>>>> of having been issued and reissued under multiple ISBNs is rather high.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll leave the question of where to catalog ISBNs for others to
>>>>> address.
>>>>>
>>>>> --joe
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Max Crowe <newdurhamlibrary at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a Library Director at a small library in New Hampshire. We just
>>>>>> started using Koha (3.00.00.107), and we're using the AmazonContent function
>>>>>> to have our catalog pick up book covers and reviews from Amazon. It works,
>>>>>> but I can't help but notice that the hit rate for the interface is rather
>>>>>> low-- there's a large number of items in our collection for which we aren't
>>>>>> getting any book covers or reviews. This would be expected, certainly, for
>>>>>> some of the older and more esoteric things in our collection. But I'm
>>>>>> finding that even as I catalog new items-- Love the One You're With by Emily
>>>>>> Griffin, for example-- they also aren't getting any hits from Amazon. (And,
>>>>>> if you search Amazon, you can easily find the book cover and reviews.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are any other libraries using this function? If so, what sort of
>>>>>> hit/miss ratio are you getting? Is there some field I should be using when
>>>>>> cataloging to ensure this function works better?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Max Crowe,
>>>>>> Library Director
>>>>>> New Durham Public Library
>>>>
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