Issuing Rules for Patron+ItemType ---- Relating to Specifying Due date on Checkout Time
Good Day Everyone, I hope someone can help me with this, it is an urgent matter. Using KOHA 3.0 The following is an example of what I hope to achieve. I went into Administration -> Circulation and Fine Rules --> Selected "Home Library" Created a a rule * Staff -- Books -- 5.00 dollars -- 1 day(s) Fine Changing Interval -- 5 Checkouts Allowed -- [[[[[1 Day Loan Period]]]] <--Very important. * Now from this rule, I would assume IF a [staff] wants to checkout a [book], THEN the maximum loan period [DUE date} per given book is ONLY 1 day allowed. However, when I checkout to user [Susan] who is [Staff], an item of [Book] type, and specify a due date of [25 days example]. I get an OK and it checks out the book to [Susan] * What about the rule that I created? What is happening with it?? Is it not used? And where/how is it used exactly?* I need it to DISALLOW me to not checkout the book to this [Staff] user, for all item [Books} IF the date is more than 1 day. I hope someone understands what I mean? *I just want to know if koha does this, and if it does NOT, then what are the issuing rules for? Only for calculating Fines?? and the fines are calculated per [1day] in this case??? when I assigned [Susan] 23 days? * Kindly awaiting biting my nails :D Thanks,
Good Day Everyone, I hope someone can help me with this, it is an urgent matter. Using KOHA 3.0 The following is an example of what I hope to achieve. I went into Administration -> Circulation and Fine Rules --> Selected "Home Library" Created a a rule * Staff -- Books -- 5.00 dollars -- 1 day(s) Fine Changing Interval -- 5 Checkouts Allowed -- [[[[[1 Day Loan Period]]]] <--Very important. * Now from this rule, I would assume IF a [staff] wants to checkout a [book], THEN the maximum loan period [DUE date} per given book is ONLY 1 day allowed. However, when I checkout to user [Susan] who is [Staff], an item of [Book] type, and specify a due date of [25 days example]. I get an OK and it checks out the book to [Susan] * What about the rule that I created? What is happening with it?? Is it not used? And where/how is it used exactly?* I need it to DISALLOW me to not checkout the book to this [Staff] user, for all item [Books} IF the date is more than 1 day. I hope someone understands what I mean? *I just want to know if koha does this, and if it does NOT, then what are the issuing rules for? Only for calculating Fines?? and the fines are calculated per [1day] in this case??? when I assigned [Susan] 23 days? * Kindly awaiting biting my nails :D Thanks,
Susan, I think by entering a due date you are effectively overiding the loan period set in the circulation rules. Just don't enter anything due date, it should automatically assign the correct due date. If you like you can use system preference "specify due date" to not show the due date field. Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz** 2009/12/9 Susan Mustafa <susan.mustafa@gmail.com>
Good Day Everyone,
I hope someone can help me with this, it is an urgent matter. Using KOHA 3.0
The following is an example of what I hope to achieve.
I went into Administration -> Circulation and Fine Rules --> Selected "Home Library"
Created a a rule * Staff -- Books -- 5.00 dollars -- 1 day(s) Fine Changing Interval -- 5 Checkouts Allowed -- [[[[[1 Day Loan Period]]]] <--Very important. *
Now from this rule, I would assume IF a [staff] wants to checkout a [book], THEN the maximum loan period [DUE date} per given book is ONLY 1 day allowed.
However, when I checkout to user [Susan] who is [Staff], an item of [Book] type, and specify a due date of [25 days example]. I get an OK and it checks out the book to [Susan] * What about the rule that I created? What is happening with it?? Is it not used? And where/how is it used exactly?*
I need it to DISALLOW me to not checkout the book to this [Staff] user, for all item [Books} IF the date is more than 1 day.
I hope someone understands what I mean?
*I just want to know if koha does this, and if it does NOT, then what are the issuing rules for? Only for calculating Fines?? and the fines are calculated per [1day] in this case??? when I assigned [Susan] 23 days? *
Kindly awaiting biting my nails :D
Thanks,
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Oh you are absolutly right!!! Now if I leave the Specify Due date blank, then the due date is automatically todaysDate + 1 day as my rule specifies. I will keep the Specify Due Date field, because our end-user likes to have everything avaialble, just incase. But my curiosity now leads me to ask you this, IF I override the due date, to 23 days. Now does Koha start changing me after todays+1 day or after todays+23 days? I THINK it should be after 1 day. Its my fault for putting in 23. What will koha do?? Thanks, On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM, savitra sirohi <savitra.sirohi@osslabs.biz>wrote:
Susan, I think by entering a due date you are effectively overiding the loan period set in the circulation rules. Just don't enter anything due date, it should automatically assign the correct due date. If you like you can use system preference "specify due date" to not show the due date field.
Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz**
2009/12/9 Susan Mustafa <susan.mustafa@gmail.com>
Good Day Everyone,
I hope someone can help me with this, it is an urgent matter. Using KOHA 3.0
The following is an example of what I hope to achieve.
I went into Administration -> Circulation and Fine Rules --> Selected "Home Library"
Created a a rule * Staff -- Books -- 5.00 dollars -- 1 day(s) Fine Changing Interval -- 5 Checkouts Allowed -- [[[[[1 Day Loan Period]]]] <--Very important. *
Now from this rule, I would assume IF a [staff] wants to checkout a [book], THEN the maximum loan period [DUE date} per given book is ONLY 1 day allowed.
However, when I checkout to user [Susan] who is [Staff], an item of [Book] type, and specify a due date of [25 days example]. I get an OK and it checks out the book to [Susan] * What about the rule that I created? What is happening with it?? Is it not used? And where/how is it used exactly?*
I need it to DISALLOW me to not checkout the book to this [Staff] user, for all item [Books} IF the date is more than 1 day.
I hope someone understands what I mean?
*I just want to know if koha does this, and if it does NOT, then what are the issuing rules for? Only for calculating Fines?? and the fines are calculated per [1day] in this case??? when I assigned [Susan] 23 days? *
Kindly awaiting biting my nails :D
Thanks,
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No, it will charge only after the due date, which is today + 23 days. It would be unfair to the patron to fine them for days before the due date! Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Susan Mustafa <susan.mustafa@gmail.com>wrote:
Oh you are absolutly right!!!
Now if I leave the Specify Due date blank, then the due date is automatically todaysDate + 1 day as my rule specifies.
I will keep the Specify Due Date field, because our end-user likes to have everything avaialble, just incase.
But my curiosity now leads me to ask you this, IF I override the due date, to 23 days. Now does Koha start changing me after todays+1 day or after todays+23 days? I THINK it should be after 1 day. Its my fault for putting in 23.
What will koha do??
Thanks,
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM, savitra sirohi < savitra.sirohi@osslabs.biz> wrote:
Susan, I think by entering a due date you are effectively overiding the loan period set in the circulation rules. Just don't enter anything due date, it should automatically assign the correct due date. If you like you can use system preference "specify due date" to not show the due date field.
Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz**
2009/12/9 Susan Mustafa <susan.mustafa@gmail.com>
Good Day Everyone,
I hope someone can help me with this, it is an urgent matter. Using KOHA 3.0
The following is an example of what I hope to achieve.
I went into Administration -> Circulation and Fine Rules --> Selected "Home Library"
Created a a rule * Staff -- Books -- 5.00 dollars -- 1 day(s) Fine Changing Interval -- 5 Checkouts Allowed -- [[[[[1 Day Loan Period]]]] <--Very important. *
Now from this rule, I would assume IF a [staff] wants to checkout a [book], THEN the maximum loan period [DUE date} per given book is ONLY 1 day allowed.
However, when I checkout to user [Susan] who is [Staff], an item of [Book] type, and specify a due date of [25 days example]. I get an OK and it checks out the book to [Susan] * What about the rule that I created? What is happening with it?? Is it not used? And where/how is it used exactly?*
I need it to DISALLOW me to not checkout the book to this [Staff] user, for all item [Books} IF the date is more than 1 day.
I hope someone understands what I mean?
*I just want to know if koha does this, and if it does NOT, then what are the issuing rules for? Only for calculating Fines?? and the fines are calculated per [1day] in this case??? when I assigned [Susan] 23 days? *
Kindly awaiting biting my nails :D
Thanks,
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Thanks Savitra, I understand, On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:39 AM, savitra sirohi <savitra.sirohi@osslabs.biz>wrote:
No, it will charge only after the due date, which is today + 23 days. It would be unfair to the patron to fine them for days before the due date!
Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Susan Mustafa <susan.mustafa@gmail.com>wrote:
Oh you are absolutly right!!!
Now if I leave the Specify Due date blank, then the due date is automatically todaysDate + 1 day as my rule specifies.
I will keep the Specify Due Date field, because our end-user likes to have everything avaialble, just incase.
But my curiosity now leads me to ask you this, IF I override the due date, to 23 days. Now does Koha start changing me after todays+1 day or after todays+23 days? I THINK it should be after 1 day. Its my fault for putting in 23.
What will koha do??
Thanks,
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 11:25 AM, savitra sirohi < savitra.sirohi@osslabs.biz> wrote:
Susan, I think by entering a due date you are effectively overiding the loan period set in the circulation rules. Just don't enter anything due date, it should automatically assign the correct due date. If you like you can use system preference "specify due date" to not show the due date field.
Thanks, Savitra Sirohi Nucsoft OSS Labs http://www.osslabs.biz**
2009/12/9 Susan Mustafa <susan.mustafa@gmail.com>
Good Day Everyone,
I hope someone can help me with this, it is an urgent matter. Using KOHA 3.0
The following is an example of what I hope to achieve.
I went into Administration -> Circulation and Fine Rules --> Selected "Home Library"
Created a a rule * Staff -- Books -- 5.00 dollars -- 1 day(s) Fine Changing Interval -- 5 Checkouts Allowed -- [[[[[1 Day Loan Period]]]] <--Very important. *
Now from this rule, I would assume IF a [staff] wants to checkout a [book], THEN the maximum loan period [DUE date} per given book is ONLY 1 day allowed.
However, when I checkout to user [Susan] who is [Staff], an item of [Book] type, and specify a due date of [25 days example]. I get an OK and it checks out the book to [Susan] * What about the rule that I created? What is happening with it?? Is it not used? And where/how is it used exactly?*
I need it to DISALLOW me to not checkout the book to this [Staff] user, for all item [Books} IF the date is more than 1 day.
I hope someone understands what I mean?
*I just want to know if koha does this, and if it does NOT, then what are the issuing rules for? Only for calculating Fines?? and the fines are calculated per [1day] in this case??? when I assigned [Susan] 23 days? *
Kindly awaiting biting my nails :D
Thanks,
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