Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD
Dear Friends, Developers / Linux techies view point manual installation is easy and convenient. In the case of a library professional, they have no Linux experience. They need to familiar with Linux desktop. Live DVD can provide familiarization. It give more confidence in them. Later they can learn ABCD's of Linux and Koha maintenance. Small libraries can run Koha with the help of Koha Live DVD. When collection grows more, they can opt manual installation. Libraries with big collection can go for servers and manual installation. Regards, -- Vimal Kumar V. Mahatma Gandhi University Library Kottayam, Kerala- 686 560 Web: http://www.vimalkumar.info Blog: http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com http://kohageek.blogspot.in --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I forget what I was taught. I only remember what I have learnt" -Patrick White
Vimal, I tend to disagree. From what I get from people on mailing lists that use the DVD is - »I don't know anything about Linux« - »I don't have time to learn« - »I want to run the system without basic knowledge about it« Of course I do understand that librarians have other things to do than learn GNU/Linux. With proprietary software they would pay a company for support. That is an option for Koha too if there is nobody in-house. The problem is that there is a general misconception about Free and Open Source Software: it is free as in freedom, but using it is not free of cost: either you spend time learning or you spend money on somebody who knows about it. Vimal Kumar V. schrieb am 22.05.2013
In the case of a library professional, they have no Linux experience. They need to familiar with Linux desktop. Live DVD can provide familiarization.
There is no need at all to use the »Linux desktop« to run Koha. Servers are usually run headless, meaning no graphical user interface, just a command line.
It give more confidence in them. Later they can learn ABCD's of Linux and Koha maintenance.
I don't think this is neccessarily true. I am under the impression that the DVD is used to actively avoid learning and it is never going to happen once a library decided to use the DVD in production.
Small libraries can run Koha with the help of Koha Live DVD. When collection grows more, they can opt manual installation. Libraries with big collection can go for servers and manual installation.
I do not understand what the size of the collection has to do with the way Koha is installed. Even a small library with a tiny collection should use the best Koha possible in production… and that is not a Live DVD. I think this is very misleading and I really hope this (»small-> DVD / big->real installation«) is not the way you are going to promote the Live DVD. I strongly object to this statement and I do not think that it has wide support within the community. As far as I remember, when you ran for Live DVD manager you talked about using the DVD to learn about and test Koha and not use it in production. I consider it very dangerous that you promote that now and I did definitely not vote for that when I voted for you as Live DVD manager. -- Mirko
I agree with Vimal, based on my own experience. I've been using computers since 1978 (very basic BASIC programming on a PDP 11/40), I got my first PC in 1988, got on the Internet around 1990, build my own computers, and have my own home network with two NAS units in the basement. Computers are not entirely a mystery to me, but even the most generous person around would not call me a Linux expert. Live DVD let me set up a demo Koha system in two days. Now I'm designing our production version based on Live DVD. I say "based" because I'm updating and upgrading as needed--I upgraded my Live DVD test system to version 3.10.5, and then to 3.12. Needless to say, I'm going to change the default passwords before going live (yes, I've read Cliff Stoll's book The Cuckoo's Egg). Also, our system is behind a hospital firewall, which adds another layer of security. Eventually I'll be confident enough to install from packages, but I need to find my way around first. Live DVD lets me do that. I wouldn't recommend it for a multi-library system with thousands of checkouts per hour, but for a small library, I think it's admirable. Fred King Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.king@medstar.net 202-877-6221 -----Original Message----- From: koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-bounces@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Vimal Kumar V. Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:14 AM To: Koha-List Subject: Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD Dear Friends, Developers / Linux techies view point manual installation is easy and convenient. In the case of a library professional, they have no Linux experience. They need to familiar with Linux desktop. Live DVD can provide familiarization. It give more confidence in them. Later they can learn ABCD's of Linux and Koha maintenance. Small libraries can run Koha with the help of Koha Live DVD. When collection grows more, they can opt manual installation. Libraries with big collection can go for servers and manual installation. Regards, -- Vimal Kumar V. Mahatma Gandhi University Library Kottayam, Kerala- 686 560 Web: http://www.vimalkumar.info Blog: http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com http://kohageek.blogspot.in --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I forget what I was taught. I only remember what I have learnt" -Patrick White _______________________________________________ Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha CONFIDENTIAL: The information contained in this communication, including its attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity(ies) to whom it is addressed. The information contained in this communication may also be protected by legal privilege, federal law or other applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient of this communication, you are hereby notified that any distribution, dissemination or duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately delete and destroy all copies of this message and please immediately notify us of the error by separate communication. Thank you.
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